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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

KEAYDIAN - 18 Nov 2008 09:54 - 3486 of 21973

Not me.

cynic - 18 Nov 2008 10:07 - 3487 of 21973

all about banks and uk being shorted to destruction!

bhunt1910 - 18 Nov 2008 19:37 - 3488 of 21973

Bit too close to the truth for my liking !!!

cynic - 19 Nov 2008 21:01 - 3489 of 21973

sure glad i am short of more than i am long (WOS, WPP, MKS) than i am long ..... only long of consequence is IEC which is a special sit

spitfire43 - 20 Nov 2008 07:06 - 3490 of 21973

Nikki over 7% down, could be testing new lows here with dow at it's lowest point.

Falcothou - 20 Nov 2008 12:22 - 3491 of 21973

Ig not been hedging properly ?
IG Group Plc (IGG LN) slumped 41.75 pence, or 18 percent, to 186.50, the sharpest drop since at least 2005. The owner of the IG Index financial-market betting brand, said first-half bad-debt costs will be almost quadruple the total for all of last year because of customers' wrong-way bets on Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc stock.

HARRYCAT - 20 Nov 2008 12:59 - 3492 of 21973

So you can trade on margin, exceed your leveraged position, fail to pay more cash in to your account & I.G. will then write it off as a bad debt? I am almost tempted to open an account!

Falcothou - 20 Nov 2008 13:13 - 3493 of 21973

Must be why they have started to automatically close out people's positions if they go over margin limit! That would not work though if something was to gap down significantly at the open

cynic - 20 Nov 2008 17:39 - 3494 of 21973

IG have always done that if you have not squared up pronto .... thyey are just being that much tougher now, but with markets as volaitile as they are, IG can then be left with stocks (long or short) which they have to liquidate

Falcothou - 20 Nov 2008 17:56 - 3495 of 21973

I suppose with their ban on shorting banking stocks it makes it impossible for them to hedge positions? Damn 768 S&p long(2002 low ) did not get filled!

cynic - 20 Nov 2008 19:40 - 3496 of 21973

it's not IG's ban, it's FSA or whichever authority

Falcothou - 20 Nov 2008 19:52 - 3497 of 21973

I'm daft cynic but not that daft

cynic - 20 Nov 2008 20:38 - 3498 of 21973

and good job you are not long .... dow plummetting again

Falcothou - 20 Nov 2008 20:39 - 3499 of 21973

I have tried a small wti long at 50 dollars probably end in tears and a small s&p at 768

Falcothou - 20 Nov 2008 20:57 - 3500 of 21973

Yes not very sensible!

spitfire43 - 21 Nov 2008 08:08 - 3501 of 21973

Would expect ftse to be well down after collapse on wall street, but bargain hunters were out last night in Asia. Might happen today here.

I might join them if I fell brave, watching sdl, rhl and sse.

dealerdear - 21 Nov 2008 08:17 - 3502 of 21973

US futures tend to turn round mid-am so as they are up now, it doesn't look particularly good for later on unless the pattern changes

spitfire43 - 21 Nov 2008 08:40 - 3503 of 21973

Dealers normally check dow futures at 11:00 to confirm trends, dow is up 225 and rising at the moment, so lets see what happens when the early risers arise stateside.

Falcothou - 21 Nov 2008 09:37 - 3504 of 21973

Seems to have bounced off 2002 support or just below it. There could be an arbitrage opportunity with dow/s&p ratio running at 1:10 when certainly when I last checked it was 1:8 so considering a market neutral long s@p/ short dow although not sure how to gear it should it be 8 long s@p for every dow point or ten ?

spitfire43 - 21 Nov 2008 10:45 - 3505 of 21973

Sorry Falcothou I have never traded that way, but I'm sure there are people here who have. But you have aroused my interest, so I will rearch later.

Good luck........
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