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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 18:55 - 3488 of 12628

No such rule as far as I know, it was a straight majority one way or the other.


MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 18:56 - 3489 of 12628

Anyway, tell em to Foxrot Oscar.

iturama - 24 Jun 2016 18:58 - 3490 of 12628

Perhaps they are referring to a Scottish referendum. The SNP will support it I'm sure. :0

Dil - 24 Jun 2016 19:09 - 3491 of 12628

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2016 11:41 - 3439 of 3489

The referendum will go down in history that Cameron leader and Right wing of the Tory Party were responsible for exiting the EU in 2016.


Wow and there was me thinking it was the 17 million odd who voted out that were responsible.

At least he did the decent thing Fred unlike that clown Corbyn and while we're at it Carwyn Jones is looking a bit of a clown too after claiming he was going to be straight on the phone this morning to negotiate directly with Brussels if we left. Well Carwyn you haven't got a mandate for that ... Wales voted out.

Dil - 24 Jun 2016 19:09 - 3492 of 12628

I blame the Welsh for us leaving :-)

dreamcatcher - 24 Jun 2016 19:15 - 3493 of 12628

Well done all the leave voters. :-))

Chris Carson - 24 Jun 2016 19:16 - 3494 of 12628

I love the Welsh! :0) (Apart from that twat Fred)

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 19:34 - 3495 of 12628

Here is a better petition. Share.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/123324

The 23 June should be designated as Independence Day, and celebrated annually.

If we leave the EU, the UK will be an independent country for the first time since 1974

Fred1new - 24 Jun 2016 19:41 - 3496 of 12628

Dil.

Reread what I posted.

cynic - 24 Jun 2016 21:16 - 3497 of 12628

2nd referendum???????????????????
oh hahaha!
that would make a mockery of the whole democratic process ....... imagine doing that the day after a GE because you didn't like the result

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 21:25 - 3498 of 12628

224,992 signatures for second referendum

There are more idiots that I thought.

MaxK - 24 Jun 2016 21:29 - 3499 of 12628

Just disgruntled lefties with nothing better to do with their time.

Haystack - 24 Jun 2016 22:34 - 3500 of 12628



Will parliament try to foil Brexit?
matthew parris

Even after a general election most MPs would favour Remain. They need a way to balance their consciences with the will of the people

The Times has estimated that about 160 of the 650 MPs elected last year want Britain to leave the EU. The overwhelming majority of Westminster MPs believes that leaving would be a mistake. Many believe it would be a very grave mistake. Not a few believe it would be calamitous.

But parliament did vote to hold a referendum on the question — and, by implication, to respect its result. This is clear. What can never be known is how many of those parliamentarians thought it seriously likely the plebiscite would result in an instruction to leave the EU. I certainly didn’t.

Well I was wrong. We know now. And in due course, as Britain’s exit proceeds, there will be crucial Commons votes. What are Remain Tory MPs to do? Break faith with the referendum they voted for, in many cases too lightly? How dare they. Or break faith with what their own judgments and conscience tell them are where the interests of constituents and country lie? How could they?

Leave that hanging while we examine what will happen next.

Sometimes in politics a kind of inevitability gathers around a course of action, without any single, simple reason requiring it. The need for a fresh electoral mandate will gain momentum in this way.

Dil - 24 Jun 2016 22:50 - 3501 of 12628

Fred I copied what you posted what did I miss ?

Dil - 24 Jun 2016 22:54 - 3502 of 12628

It's us who are responsible not him personally and that's what democracy is all about.

Don't think we'll be the last ones to leave either unless there is a radical overhaul of the way the EU is run.

Claret Dragon - 25 Jun 2016 04:45 - 3503 of 12628

ı awaıt the stıtch up by most of the 650 wastrels ın Parlıament. Glorıfıed shop stewards all of them sınce Maastrıcht, Amsterdam, Nıce. and Lısbon treatıes. Gutless wonders spoutıng off about economıc benefıts as UK was hollowed out. So all thats left was money shufflıng.

grannyboy - 25 Jun 2016 08:10 - 3504 of 12628

They just don't like seeing DEMOCRACY in action, that's why you've had
this reaction to a LEAVE vote..

The Westminster elite think they know whats best for the man or woman
in the street, like uncontrolled immigration, being in an undemocratic, corrupt,
unnacountable ideological project.

And when you've got silly bints like Anna Soubrey with her spoilt foot stomping
tantrums and the Islington champagne socialist trying to tell us the younger
generation have more common sense then their elders, and of course the younger
generation believing what these fools tell them, not for the youngs benefit of
course, but because they see the gravy train being taken from their greedy grasping
little fingers...

Dil - 25 Jun 2016 08:21 - 3505 of 12628

The FTSE 100 finished up 2.4% on the week , sterling is higher than it was in February , Obama has done a U turned and the Presdent of the EU has said we will still be close trading partners.

What happened to the end of the world scenario being peddled by Cammy and co ?

Dil - 25 Jun 2016 08:23 - 3506 of 12628

Soubrey needs to change her name to Sourpuss , what a sore loser.

dreamcatcher - 25 Jun 2016 08:39 - 3507 of 12628

The media need to stop all the doom and gloom and start backing this country for the future. A few months of uncertainty and lets get on our way. As Dil states the president off USA has done a u turn. Europe will have to come round. Just a lot of shock in the system at the moment.
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