Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays,

I didn't realise you had changed your name.

Very sad.

Hays,

Many of the "cuts" and their effects have not been realised yet!

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Reminds me of a remark made to me over 60 years ago about tories by an old man that, "the Tories are all liars, damned liars, think of that every time you come to negotiate with them".

Any doubts I had at the time have subsequently been removed.


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I think he saw the success of a tory icon in this way.

goldfinger

I don't know what you are getting excited about , a lot of it as already been hinted at in the past .

Labour under Tony Blair had a secret plan to flood the UK with mass imigration , secret from most of his own cabinet not to mention Iraq

It's what they all do, con and lie to the very people they are supposed to represent.
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Not to the people they really represent.

ohhhhhhhhhhhh but this is far worse alders.

You should see twitter its full of it and this is the previous pro Thatcher fans posting in dismay and disapointment.

The anti thatcher brigaide cant get a word in as the feeling of betrayal is so overwhelming.

This weekends newspapers will be choko with it.

Whats more further revelations are to be published, some say link with her son!!!!!!!!!!

con and lie????
nah! just omit to tell all .... and in (dis)honesty, often quite rightly so too - e.g. MrsT and her contingency plans for the mines

MaxK, themselves?
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oh do shut up sticky :-))

Indeed George.

Cyners........Links with her son!!!!!!!!!! you know what that means dont you..BANGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Ohhhhhhhhhhh im loving this, this is dream world, Maggie getting hammered by everyone and from everyside.

All the hangers on now distancing themselves. Fatty Pickles as just done that LOL.

remind me can you, but am i not correct in thinking that MrsT is dead and left power about 20 years ago? ..... if so, what are you getting so excited about?

now if you were discussing the merits or otherwise of brown or blair, then of course it might even have current relevance

:-)

It will be interesting if/when we ever get to the truth about all the shenanigans over the Iraq debacle and the Blair/Bush conversations. This country is still paying the price for that unholy mess.

No one really cares about Mrs T and the miners etc., except the twitters crazies. Twitter is inhabited by trolls who like to get excited about anything in the news. They are all goldfinger clones.

LOL, SKY news full of it. You cant sweep it under the carpet this time.

Any way social net work sites carry a lot of weight these days. Bit like you fatty Hays.

A Dream to nightmare.

What we should do is dig her up and expose her for what she was.

Perhaps not.

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Your right Cyners I never got the chance to vote against Maggie being too young, but I certainly have studied her works etc etc, and have noticed how the North of England is devoid of previous manufacturing business, in fact work of any kind bar super markets.

DB.

I would like to open the books on Blair and Bush before we have the luck of them dying.

I think much of the present problems in the ME are down to them, but unfortunately some problems are and to come from Israel, which at the moment is out out of the headlines.

lots of good reasons why uk (heavy) manufacturing was in serious decline from WW1 onwards

for sure there was plenty of appalling management, and to some extent, that is how and why the balance swung too far the other way (as is the nature of these things) towards union power .... this in turn gave a good toehold for ultimate direct russian financial and political control of several key unions

however, even without all the above, it is in the nature of manufacturing in the modern era, that it gravitates to areas where labour is cheaper or even cheapest, always provided that the goods are produced to an acceptable quality

in the chemical industry, china especially has a well-earned reputation for producing sub-standard product - ditto india to some extent - with the result that the only way that it can be sold is at a discount

for that matter, many people still refuse to accept chinese stainless steel, for similar reasons


sorry - got a bit off subject at the end :-)