cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
dealerdear
- 21 Nov 2008 08:17
- 3502 of 21973
US futures tend to turn round mid-am so as they are up now, it doesn't look particularly good for later on unless the pattern changes
spitfire43
- 21 Nov 2008 08:40
- 3503 of 21973
Dealers normally check dow futures at 11:00 to confirm trends, dow is up 225 and rising at the moment, so lets see what happens when the early risers arise stateside.
Falcothou
- 21 Nov 2008 09:37
- 3504 of 21973
Seems to have bounced off 2002 support or just below it. There could be an arbitrage opportunity with dow/s&p ratio running at 1:10 when certainly when I last checked it was 1:8 so considering a market neutral long s@p/ short dow although not sure how to gear it should it be 8 long s@p for every dow point or ten ?
spitfire43
- 21 Nov 2008 10:45
- 3505 of 21973
Sorry Falcothou I have never traded that way, but I'm sure there are people here who have. But you have aroused my interest, so I will rearch later.
Good luck........
jkd
- 21 Nov 2008 12:00
- 3506 of 21973
anyone any views on yesterdays 4pm 4 hourly candle plus todays 10am hourly?
does yesterdays count? 3 1/2 hours of it was after close.( in the futures 24 hour) anyone?
regards
jkd
maddoctor
- 21 Nov 2008 14:58
- 3507 of 21973
Goldman pouring fuel on the fire:
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Unemployment will reach 9%, from 6.5% currently, by the end of 2009 and the economy will shrink in each quarter until mid-2009, said economists at Goldman Sachs on Friday. The firm's forecasts are lower than previous predictions due to "continuing signs of falling domestic and foreign demand, labor market deterioration, renewed tightening in financial conditions, and an apparent impasse in fiscal policy pending the transfer of power to the Obama administration in late January," analysts wrote in a note. If unemployment reaches that level, it would be "unequivocally the worst single downturn on record since World War II." Gross domestic product will shrink 5% this quarter, and 3% and 1% in the subsequent quarters, they said. The forecast leads to a 25% decline in after-tax corporate profits, which would be the worst since the Great Depression.
halifax
- 21 Nov 2008 15:05
- 3508 of 21973
Are Goldman Suchs still forecasting the oil price reaching $200 per barrel next year? I suppose nowadays their guess is as good as mine.
maddoctor
- 21 Nov 2008 15:09
- 3509 of 21973
it wasn,t a guess halifax , they and Merrill lynch run the oil market and they were trying to move it up.
halifax
- 21 Nov 2008 15:11
- 3510 of 21973
We know that but they failed because their antics were so transparent.
Stan
- 21 Nov 2008 15:17
- 3511 of 21973
Opec may be more effective at moving the price up, certainly in the short term.
cynic
- 21 Nov 2008 15:20
- 3512 of 21973
what OPEC says and what OPEC does often bear no relation!
Falcothou
- 21 Nov 2008 16:00
- 3513 of 21973
Halifax I think they were targeting $50 after they closed their oil longs and opened the shorts
jkd
- 21 Nov 2008 16:57
- 3514 of 21973
sorry if i misunderstand,
am i on the wrong thread guys? oil?
regards
jkd
required field
- 22 Nov 2008 09:26
- 3515 of 21973
What everybody needs is for oil to start rising again....ftse would climb as well.
HARRYCAT
- 22 Nov 2008 09:47
- 3516 of 21973
DOW climbed nearly 500 points on the back of no significant news that I can see, unless it was Citigroup's rescue which triggered it?
I think a lot of people will be very glad that oil has collapsed back to $50 a barrel (Consumers rather than investors), so enjoy it while it lasts rf !!!
required field
- 22 Nov 2008 10:38
- 3517 of 21973
I've noticed a lot more cars on the road as of late...no doubt : cheaper oil prices !....at a guess oil has to rise at some stage....it costs a packet to get it out of the ground !.
cynic
- 23 Nov 2008 17:15
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anyone think the fiscal package to be announced tomorrow will have any real or immediate impact? .... is a cut of 2.5% in VAT really going to stimulate a buying spree? ...... can't see it myself
halifax
- 23 Nov 2008 17:42
- 3519 of 21973
No chance the electorate aren't that stupid, they know cash is king at the moment, a reduction in vat doesn't put any money in your pocket.
ThePublisher
- 23 Nov 2008 18:48
- 3520 of 21973
"is a cut of 2.5% in VAT really going to stimulate a buying spree?"
No chance.
But is buying really drying up - or simply moving down a slot?
You can't afford a new house so you spend some of the money you have saved on a car.
You can't justify buying a fresh car so you treat yourself to the plasma you have always wanted.
IMHO people are still spending. They can't kick the habit, so they buy less expensive goodies.
Interesting article in yesterday's FT about the problems of calling a restaurant a restaurant. Makes it sound pricey - so you call it a brasserie or bistro or whatever.
TP
cynic
- 23 Nov 2008 18:57
- 3521 of 21973
if you think people are still spending, then take a walk down your high street ..... reality does not lie!