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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

spitfire43 - 21 Nov 2008 10:45 - 3505 of 21973

Sorry Falcothou I have never traded that way, but I'm sure there are people here who have. But you have aroused my interest, so I will rearch later.

Good luck........

jkd - 21 Nov 2008 12:00 - 3506 of 21973

anyone any views on yesterdays 4pm 4 hourly candle plus todays 10am hourly?
does yesterdays count? 3 1/2 hours of it was after close.( in the futures 24 hour) anyone?
regards
jkd

maddoctor - 21 Nov 2008 14:58 - 3507 of 21973

Goldman pouring fuel on the fire:


NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Unemployment will reach 9%, from 6.5% currently, by the end of 2009 and the economy will shrink in each quarter until mid-2009, said economists at Goldman Sachs on Friday. The firm's forecasts are lower than previous predictions due to "continuing signs of falling domestic and foreign demand, labor market deterioration, renewed tightening in financial conditions, and an apparent impasse in fiscal policy pending the transfer of power to the Obama administration in late January," analysts wrote in a note. If unemployment reaches that level, it would be "unequivocally the worst single downturn on record since World War II." Gross domestic product will shrink 5% this quarter, and 3% and 1% in the subsequent quarters, they said. The forecast leads to a 25% decline in after-tax corporate profits, which would be the worst since the Great Depression.

halifax - 21 Nov 2008 15:05 - 3508 of 21973

Are Goldman Suchs still forecasting the oil price reaching $200 per barrel next year? I suppose nowadays their guess is as good as mine.

maddoctor - 21 Nov 2008 15:09 - 3509 of 21973

it wasn,t a guess halifax , they and Merrill lynch run the oil market and they were trying to move it up.

halifax - 21 Nov 2008 15:11 - 3510 of 21973

We know that but they failed because their antics were so transparent.

Stan - 21 Nov 2008 15:17 - 3511 of 21973

Opec may be more effective at moving the price up, certainly in the short term.

cynic - 21 Nov 2008 15:20 - 3512 of 21973

what OPEC says and what OPEC does often bear no relation!

Falcothou - 21 Nov 2008 16:00 - 3513 of 21973

Halifax I think they were targeting $50 after they closed their oil longs and opened the shorts

jkd - 21 Nov 2008 16:57 - 3514 of 21973

sorry if i misunderstand,
am i on the wrong thread guys? oil?
regards
jkd

required field - 22 Nov 2008 09:26 - 3515 of 21973

What everybody needs is for oil to start rising again....ftse would climb as well.

HARRYCAT - 22 Nov 2008 09:47 - 3516 of 21973

DOW climbed nearly 500 points on the back of no significant news that I can see, unless it was Citigroup's rescue which triggered it?
I think a lot of people will be very glad that oil has collapsed back to $50 a barrel (Consumers rather than investors), so enjoy it while it lasts rf !!!

required field - 22 Nov 2008 10:38 - 3517 of 21973

I've noticed a lot more cars on the road as of late...no doubt : cheaper oil prices !....at a guess oil has to rise at some stage....it costs a packet to get it out of the ground !.

cynic - 23 Nov 2008 17:15 - 3518 of 21973

anyone think the fiscal package to be announced tomorrow will have any real or immediate impact? .... is a cut of 2.5% in VAT really going to stimulate a buying spree? ...... can't see it myself

halifax - 23 Nov 2008 17:42 - 3519 of 21973

No chance the electorate aren't that stupid, they know cash is king at the moment, a reduction in vat doesn't put any money in your pocket.

ThePublisher - 23 Nov 2008 18:48 - 3520 of 21973

"is a cut of 2.5% in VAT really going to stimulate a buying spree?"

No chance.

But is buying really drying up - or simply moving down a slot?

You can't afford a new house so you spend some of the money you have saved on a car.

You can't justify buying a fresh car so you treat yourself to the plasma you have always wanted.

IMHO people are still spending. They can't kick the habit, so they buy less expensive goodies.

Interesting article in yesterday's FT about the problems of calling a restaurant a restaurant. Makes it sound pricey - so you call it a brasserie or bistro or whatever.

TP

cynic - 23 Nov 2008 18:57 - 3521 of 21973

if you think people are still spending, then take a walk down your high street ..... reality does not lie!

ThePublisher - 23 Nov 2008 19:05 - 3522 of 21973

c,

That's what I based my impression on.

Putney High Street looked pretty busy to me on Friday - as were the hostelries in the evening.

TP

Stan - 23 Nov 2008 19:19 - 3523 of 21973

It's going to be patchy up until christmas, for example Manchester was busy as ever I have seen It at this time of the year on Saturday.

After December watch out the normal lull will be much deeper IMHO.

cynic - 24 Nov 2008 08:36 - 3524 of 21973

the following is a clear indication of what retailers think ..... bear in mind that parents will always give to their children and cut back on themselves ....

British toy maker Character said on Monday it had seen a double-digit percentage drop in sales volumes as retailers have cut back on orders due to a downturn in consumer spending.
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