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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 05 Jan 2014 00:28 - 35099 of 81564

A lot of these so called 4 million? paying the top rate of tax arent actually paying the top rate of tax but are in fact paying about 20%. Tax avoidance at its worst and the HMRC have hardly scraped the top on implementation of IR35.

Ill explain how its done tomorrow too busy tonight on the reception again at Fawlty Towers and Sat night to sun is very busy. A few intoxicated types.

Think Ill join them listening to how useless this English cricket team is.

Bottoms up.

goldfinger - 05 Jan 2014 01:27 - 35100 of 81564

Was looking for present recovery rate on IR35 and found item below.

Heres what Im refering to above, a little outdated but about 1 million plus paying just 20% instead of 45%. So called celebs and football starts plus a lot of others, just turn yourself into a limited Company and make yourself (and partner) director.

Notice the Tory U Turn.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-2095909/How-pay-21-tax-100-000-income-child-benefit--IR35-rules-explained.html

goldfinger - 05 Jan 2014 01:39 - 35101 of 81564

duplicate.

MaxK - 05 Jan 2014 09:45 - 35102 of 81564

Fred1new - 05 Jan 2014 09:47 - 35103 of 81564

Lord Ashcroft’s mega poll has UKIP on 16pc – the highest his surveys have ever recorded
January 4th, 2014

Fred1new - 05 Jan 2014 09:49 - 35104 of 81564

Hear Cons are 9% behind.

Labour majority 58+

dreamcatcher - 05 Jan 2014 09:53 - 35105 of 81564

9%,8%, 7% you sound worried Fred. Someone tell your leader to buy a new suit and get rid of the winkle pickers. Saw him walking down the street on the Andrew Marr slot this morning, trousers round his ankles.

Fred1new - 05 Jan 2014 09:57 - 35106 of 81564

DC,

Are you referring to Wavey Davey on the Andrew Marr program.

The only good thing about WD was his suit.

UKIP 16%.

Phew. Cameron may need his pension sooner than later.

8-)

MaxK - 05 Jan 2014 09:59 - 35107 of 81564

Tony Blair's fortune boosted £13m by 'bumper year'

Newly published accounts show former PM Tony Blair's business interests around the world are booming, according to a City accountant





By Robert Mendick, and Edward Malnick

10:40PM GMT 04 Jan 2014



Tony Blair has more than £13 million deposited in the bank following his most commercially successful year since quitting Downing Street.


The latest accounts for a network of companies used to run his growing business empire show Mr Blair’s business interests around the world are booming. Profits at one company alone, which he owns, totalled almost £2 million while shareholder funds on two businesses total £7 million.


The accounts, for the 12 months to April 2013 and which were lodged at Companies House last week, give the best indication yet of Mr Blair’s earning power. His wealth, including a London townhouse, a country estate and several other properties, is estimated at £70 million.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/10551183/Tony-Blairs-fortune-boosted-13m-by-bumper-year.html

dreamcatcher - 05 Jan 2014 10:00 - 35108 of 81564

At least he can afford one. lol. UKIP will fizzle out nearer the election.

dreamcatcher - 05 Jan 2014 10:04 - 35109 of 81564

What a haunted looking face, I wonder what is cutting him up. Let him enjoy the money, looks like all he has.

Fred1new - 05 Jan 2014 10:07 - 35110 of 81564

Interesting to see Cameron, who believes in unity of the UK and is supposed to defend it is running and ducking from a debate with Alex Salmon?

What is he hiding from.

Fred1new - 05 Jan 2014 11:20 - 35111 of 81564

I hope Blair donates all the profits from his ill-gotten gains of the Iraq war to restoration of Law, Order and Justice in Iraq.

dreamcatcher - 05 Jan 2014 11:21 - 35112 of 81564

They are more likely in a swiss bank account. :-))

Fred1new - 05 Jan 2014 11:49 - 35113 of 81564


Nigel, where have all the immigrants gone?


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/02/immigration-invasion-bulgarians-romanians-uk

The immigration invasion that never was


No extra flights, empty seats – the lack of stampeding Bulgarians and Romanians shows the rightwing hysteria for what it was/

goldfinger - 05 Jan 2014 12:44 - 35114 of 81564

electionista ‏@electionista
UK - @LordAshcroft poll:

CON 30%
LAB 39%
LDEM 8%
UKIP 16%

"More than a third of 2010 Conservative voters say they would not vote for the party in an election tomorrow. These Defectors tend to have a low to middling view of Cameron, and doubt the Tories stand for fairness or are on the side of ordinary people. Less than one in five have gone to Labour or the Lib Dems; about half say they support UKIP (compared to just over a quarter in my poll of specifically Tory-held marginal seats last year) and a third say they do not know how they will vote or will not vote at all."

goldfinger - 05 Jan 2014 12:54 - 35115 of 81564

Dave Camoron ‏@EtonOldBoys 25m
Cameron going for the Dorset Vote, will increase Pensions, average age in Dorset is 87 #votetory

cynic - 05 Jan 2014 16:28 - 35116 of 81564

it has something of a feel of desperation for the tories to start trying to buy votes already with a promise of tax cuts and similar.

if we are going to have them, then i'ld certainly like to see a bit more than the usual (lack of) imagination in dishing them out.
for example, cutting the top rate of tax from 45% to 40% on incomes over £150k will actually benefit remarkably few, and is scarcely a way to win back middle england
on the other hand, raising the various band levels, especially in the lower and middle brackets - e.g. up to say £100k - would benefit a significant swathe.

The biggest winner, though the chance of it happening is close to zero, would be to make the application of stamp duty on houses operate as it does on income tax
that would make a massive difference to many people and also stimulate the building industry

goldfinger - 05 Jan 2014 18:34 - 35117 of 81564

Yes I like that post.

Cant see middle England liking a cut in the top rate of tax when they have already had one.

MaxK - 05 Jan 2014 18:38 - 35118 of 81564

Nigel Farage: 'the basic principle' of Enoch Powell’s River of Blood speech is right

The Ukip leader says that some passages from the 1968 River of Blood speech describing the problems of immigration are now true for much of England




By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent

5:43PM GMT 05 Jan 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10552055/Nigel-Farage-the-basic-principle-of-Enoch-Powells-River-of-Blood-speech-is-right.html



Nigel Farage has said that the “basic principle” of Enoch Powell’s River of Blood speech is “right.”


The Ukip leader said that while he agreed with parts of Mr Powell’s infamous speech on how large scale immigration can change an area “beyond recognition” the 1968 speech was based on “different reasons” than the current immigration concerns.


Appearing on Sky’s Murnaghan show the Ukip leader was read excerpts from the speech without being told the origin of the comments and nodded along.


When it was revealed the words had been from Powell Mr Farage said: “Well what he was warning about was the large influx of people into an area, that change an area beyond recognition, there is tension – the basic principle is right.”


In the speech Mr Powell said that the “indigenous” population of Britain in the 1960s had found their “homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition.” A situation that Mr Farage said was now true for much of England.

Mr Farage added: “For different reasons, and on a completely different scale. When immigration was being discussed in the sixties, seventies and eighties we were talking about an annual net inflow to the country of between 30 and 50,000 people a year.

"What we have had in the last thirteen years is net 4 million extra migrants coming to Britain."

In December Vince Cable compared David Cameron’s rhetoric on immigration to Powell’s “rivers of blood” speech and said the Prime Minister had made British voters “schizophrenic” about the issue.

The Liberal Democrat Cabinet minister suggested that Conservative rhetoric over immigration was similar to anti-Semitic “panics over Jewish immigrants” in the early 20th century.

Mr Farage also claimed that there is currently “massive oversupply” of unskilled labour from across the EU in the UK which is handing big corporations “big profits” and pushing the wages of British people down.

The Ukip leader said any would-be migrant to the UK should now be forced to prove that they will earn at least £27,500 – more than the average UK salary – to make sure they will “be net contributors to the UK economy.”

Mr Farage said that his party was not “scapegoating” Romanians and Bulgarians who may want to come to the UK to work but that open borders had “transformed the labour market” in Britain.

He said: “There is no question that it’s pushed wage inflation down; it’s helped big companies and big corporations and big landowners to make bigger profits - no argument about that.”

Mr Farage, who warned last year of a “Romanian crime wave”, said the Government should ensure those coming to Britain did not have criminal records and would “bring a benefit” to the UK.

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