Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I don't believe it... That just about sums them up.

winter fuel allowance and bus passes
is DC absolutely nuts?
do i hear much agreement?
why on earth should someone with an income in excess of say £50k get a winter fuel allowance or bus pass?
these allowances were surely introduced, like free(?) tv licences, to help those who genuinely need same, not as a joke for those who patently do not


immigration
while cable is undoubtedly right that it will be next to impossible for DC to deliver on his target cap of 75,000, to ridicule the idea shows how totally out of touch he (cable) is with the strongly held opinion of the country at large
of course, one could possibly say that about the joe public's wish to bring back hanging

An MBE for a barber who has cut camerons hair? Talk about devaluing the honours system... if it did need any more devaluing that is.

excuse me, but he cuts kylie's hair too - one assumes on her head :-)

Stan,

Cameron and his cronies and bed mates are debasing politics in general. The Dishonour System is a farce. It appears to be returning to the Music Hall standards of Lloyd George.

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Sinner,

How many Old Age Pensioners having an income of say £20,000 use a bus pass?

Very few.

The bus passes enable the "poorer" to "get around" and administering a system to deny the few who can easily afford a bus season ticket off peak would probably be costly.

Besides reducing the users of buses would possibly increase the use of "cars".

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The "heating allowance" seemed "daft" at the time of introduction, but can you expect Wackey Davey to remove it.

I think it could be included in basic state pension and total income taxed at going rates.

That would reduce "costs" of administration.

ahhhhhhhhhhh this is why I disagree with all on winter fuel bus pass and free tv license.

If youve paid in..... you get it as far as Im concerned. No matter how wealthy you are.

Its them that havent paid in that should have it taken away.

Debate is futile anyway when you look at that chart for tax avoidance.

Sir Giddeon could cut the deficit at a stroke if he employed the correct people to collect tax.

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thought it was illegal to go to bed with a child
but it appears it does not include immigrants in the uk

Stan, oh ye of short memory, it was only an mbe awarded not the high reward given to Harolds coat maker.

stable

If you read Stan and Fred's post's, overtime you will soon become unstable and wish you were back in the stable .... lol

GANEX. Elland near Halifax Yorkshire.

GF

"Its them that havent paid in that should have it taken away."

Which group are you thinking of?

Many don't earn "sufficient" to pay basic tax, but "put" a lot into society in different ways.

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I would think that Basic Pensions should be based on "basic needs" and "justifiable" reward.

Many don't earn "sufficient" to pay basic tax, but "put" a lot into society in different ways.
is that so ..... would you care to be (much) more specific?

I would think that Basic Pensions should be based on "basic needs" and "justifiable" reward.
and the same applies here ...... would you care to be (much) more specific?

Fred sorry yes ive phrased that wrong. It should read nobody should have it taken away, including ALL those who have paid in.

But the main point is that Osbourne is using these cuts as a political tool to draw out a response from labour. No way by cutting housing benefit for under 25s does it add up to £12.5 billion at the most it would be £2.5 billion but yet he says of this £25 billion 50% will come from welfare savings and 50% of that is savings as per above. So question is where does this other £10 million come from? given that Camoron as stated he will not cut winter fuel allowance bus pass etc.

see graph here........

housing benefit is generally not that easy to come by, even though some assuredly work the system to get it, and i concur that it would only raise a minute amount - you can forget the headline figure

i think that a single-parent family (one child) gets a maximum of £700 pm, but no doubt someone can verify or correct that

sticky and i won't follow the red herring about landlords rentals!

GF.

I thought that is what you intended.

The devil is in the detail.

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Manuel,

Suggest you play this short audio and consider your self inflicted blindness.

But, perhaps the obtusity of age may prevent you understanding it.

http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15377

an even better idea for you ..... start answering questions instead of playing silly little games, pretending it's a variation on one of your cyber-chess antics