Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Nicked from across the road, you for sure wont want to read this Haystack.



https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/europes-current-economy/the-press-establishment-accuse-farage-trump-of-racism/

Haystack you are as bad as the Swedish media and authorities, its almost impossible to say anything against immigration in Sweden because you can be arrested, YOU can deny it all you want but the same cover up was attempted in Sweden like they tried to cover the mass assault's that happened in Cologne and other German citys on NYE, and other times like the rape of a ten year old boy in a swimming pool, or the molestations of woman, also in swimming pools..ALL by immigrants..

Then in Sweden at their festivals they have in the Autumn where Swedish woman were raped and abused...

YOU and your bum friend fred1 are the denyer's just like the liberal idiots in Sweden and Germany, And Germany are STILL expecting 1 MILLION immigrants this year..

It is very likely that Trump is racist. His father certainly was and it is likely that it would have influenced him.

His father was a member of the KKK and was arrested in a fight between the KKK and opposing groups. He was indicted on federal charges for refusing to rent to black people and evicting black people from property that he bought. He was a notorious slum landlord.

I didn't say there were no problems with immigrants in Sweden, but the headlines about Sweden being the rape capital are in error.

It is all academic as I am sure we will stay in the EU.

NO its NOT..The liberals would like the world to believe its an error, but people are cottoning on to the COVER UPS thats being attempted by the authorities, just like what happened in this country with the rapes and abuse of under aged white girls by Pakistani men that was hushed up by ALL government agencies .....

ROTHERHAM...KEIGHLEY....ROCHDALE......ETC....ETC........ETC

No cover up. Read the Wiki link that I posted above. The rise in rapes started way before the immigration.

YOU talk absolute crap..Of course there was rapes before MASS immigration..But the difference has been a cultural belief by MUSLIMS, in an organised manner and on a MASSIVE scale, whether YOU except that or not its a FACT, and it was COVERED UP by ALL the authourities...

British public must be told truth about immigration figures ahead of EU referendum, says watchdog

Exclusive: Office for National Statistics instructed to tell the public whether official immigration data "falls short of providing a full picture"



By David Barrett, Home Affairs Correspondent

9:30PM BST 30 Mar 2016



The British public must be told the truth about migration ahead of the EU referendum, the Office for National Statistics has been warned, amid concerns official figures may be wrong.


In a development which will intensify public debate about immigration ahead of the June 23 vote, the UK Statistics Authority (UKSA) has written to the head of the ONS pointing out “speculation about the quality” of migration figures.


The watchdog said the public must be told if official immigration data “falls short of providing a full picture”, The Telegraph can disclose.





"Since June 2010, 904,000 EU nationals moved to Britain, according to ONS data, but in comparison the DWP issued 2.25 million National Insurance numbers – a variation of 1.3 million – over the same period. "




Article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/12207625/British-public-must-be-told-truth-about-immigration-figures-ahead-of-EU-referendum-says-watchdog.html

Nice one Max , I've never believed for one minute the figures they throw around are true , I think it could be quite shocking .

Indeed V, and the figs only include the ones they know about.

And I believe that successive governments don't care how many they let in . just to boost their performance during their tenure . Trouble is you can't do it indefinitely or else .

surely more to the point ....... unless i am much mistaken, once you have a nat ins number you can claim benefits ..... therefore, who are all these fake potential or actual claimants? ....... also, one assumes that once such a number has been issued, the supposed owner is then removed from various statistics

Well you can claim benefits even when you've not contributed to the system if you're from the EU anyway, and of course those not from the eu can claim asylum and get benefits.

surely you can't claim without a an NI number

What about those waiting to be processed from outside the EU ,they have to live .

Reading this thread has been an eye opener for me as to what people believe and also what people want ,it's a strange world we live in .

Someone can come into the country start selling the Big Issue and after a couple of days obtain a NI number by saying they're self employed...

Barmy but TRUE!

What way do you mean jimmy , good or bad .

Certainly there have been cover ups of rape figure. However it is wrong to use the silly "Sweden: rape capital" headline as an excuse to leave the EU. All governments cover up crime stats. The true crime ethnicity figures at never released in the UK due to political nervousness.

Not true. You have to prove that you have the right to work in the UK to get an NI number even for self employed status.