soul traders
- 02 Mar 2006 12:02
Tiny Qonnectis is at present in an embryonic stage, but seems to have an interesting product with great potential. Their flagship product connects energy and water meters to the Internet via Qonnectis' own server and users' website, providing 24-hour real-time accessibility as well as the opportunity for instant data comparison and updates as frequently as every 15 minutes. This avoids the costs of traditional meter-reading methods (i.e. reading by eye or the more recent "drive-by" technology). The new technology has already saved one early customer a reported 180,000 after it spotted a water leak and alerted the user. Early adopters include utilities such as Scottish Water and Generale des Eaux Lyon, plus public sector clients such as the NHS, the RAF and various District Councils (the list is numerous, so please see QTI's press releases for the whole picture). In November 2005 QTI announced a distribution deal with Compteurs Farnier of France, providing potential access to the USA and Canada in addition to the French market.
The business case for QTI seems strong: the product is inexpensive and provides cost savings both in terms of labour-saving and of cutting wastage. Sales include an element of subscription on a five-year basis; it seems logical that satisfied customers will both increase their number of meters in use and come back for further subscriptions after the five-year period has elapsed. The potential market is huge. The real question is, when will QTI achieve break-even?
CEO Mike Tapia previously built up the Talisman remote/drive-by meter-reading business, which was then sold to Severn Trent Water Co around 1997.
Does anyone have any figures on the Talisman sale, or perhaps on Compteurs Farnier? It would be good to get some idea of the current market.
EDIT: New charts added, 21Dec2007.

silvermede
- 10 Jan 2008 10:36
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oilivergas: why not contact the company and confirm the newspaper report to ascertain the situation, before selling out.
www.qonnectis.com
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For further information, please contact:
Qonnectis plc 01932 788299
Michael Tapia, Chief Executive
Richard M. Taylor, Chairman
kimoldfield
- 10 Jan 2008 10:42
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Oilivergas, you have been somewhat premature in selling I fear,Qonnectis is officially launching Leakfrog following Thames Water and Qonnectis agreeing a licence arrangement with respect to Thames Water's 50% interest in the Leakfrog intellectual property, which will allow the Company to market Leakfrog nationally and internationally.
Commenting on the launch of Leakfrog, Michael Tapia, Qonnectis' Chief Executive, said:
"Having undergone extensive tests and now volume adoption by Thames Water, Leakfrog is proven in the field. We are now looking to target all the other UK water companies, as well as overseas companies, with the aim of large volume throughout the water industry. Water is the world's most precious natural resource and its supply is increasingly under threat. As the need for water conservation becomes increasingly recognised we expect Leakfrog to have a major beneficial effect on water supply efficiency and Qonnectis' sales."
HARRYCAT
- 10 Jan 2008 11:39
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Lets hope they have got their patents firmly in place (far eastern copies will not take long to emerge) & also that they don't hang about in getting this marketed to other water companies.
I still hold this stock, but history shows that QTI are not the best at being pro-active with their products. A dynamic sales director would pay dividends, imo.
Toya
- 10 Jan 2008 12:50
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Must admit I was mystified by Oilvergas' comment re "this kind of stunt". I'm in profit on this one and will continue to hold as I think there's plenty of opportunity for the sp to rise.
jmacroesus
- 10 Jan 2008 13:22
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Agree, I'm mystified too.
Interesting reply from M Tapia on iii. Followed speculation that Thames at present only installing Leakfrog on a temporary basis (which seems to be the case):
'Many thanks for your email. Leakfrog can be used either on a permanent
basis for always-on leakage monitoring or on a survey basis
temporarily. Typically we would expect a mixture with a move by water
companies to permanent monitoring, perhaps after initially surveying
some of their sites and then deciding where to begin or carry out
permanent installations. Clearly pipe bursts and wastage can occur at
any time as we feel the benefits of permanent leakage monitoring are
compelling.
Neither the myMeter web service or Leakfrog is available direct to the
public through retail although we would expect or or both of them to
become so via water companies or other distributors over time. Right
now, as you will appreciate, we are very much focused on direct water
company sales and setting up distribution channels.'
Toya
- 10 Jan 2008 14:27
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Thanks for that info Jmac
oilivergas
- 10 Jan 2008 18:09
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/dec/28/leakfrog
I read and seen ramping by a company before. It is a fact Thames Water invented this product and QTI have failed to do anything with it. QTI then annouce new customer who happens to be the people who invented it.
DYOR then post who another customer is, good luck
oilyrag
- 11 Jan 2008 08:45
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I would hazard a guess that 95% of inventions in production are by companies that had nothing to do with the development of that product. This isn't based on research or fact but purely a guess. So I don't exactly see your point, unless you are intentionally trying to undermime investor confidence and de-ramp this company. Four boffins as you put it could hardly produce their invention in a garage, as well as continue in employment to pay the bills, without help from somewhere, in this case it happens to be QTI.
jmacroesus
- 11 Jan 2008 09:58
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QTI would hardly have a 50% interest in the device and have national and international marketing rights if they didn't play a very significant role in the development. Thames has so far bought several batches from them (the last amounting 200k) so QTI are clearly responsible for getting them produced. They also probably played a significant part in the technical design.
kimoldfield
- 11 Jan 2008 10:05
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Perhaps we should give Oilivergas the benefit of the doubt in that maybe he is not trying to de-ramp, but simply has not grasped the point that, until now, because of contractual constraints QTI have not been able to market Leakfrog to anyone but Thames Water!
soul traders
- 18 Jan 2008 16:30
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Oilivergas, all,
I quote from the article to which Oilivergas has kindly provided links:
"Leakfrog is the brainchild of four Thames Water boffins and was developed for production in partnership with the Aim-listed company Qonnectis, which specialises in energy and water conservation technology."
I am quite sure that there is no cover-up, nothing sinister, no claims of QTI having invented something they didn't. QTI has helped to develop the product! Those of us who have been following this company for years are quite satisfied with the information which QTI has been releasing about Leakfrog over the past however many months. I would suggest that usually the information released direct from the horse's mouth is to be preferred to that which is reported at second hand in a newspaper, but that's just my opinion.
In any case, how could QTI be ramping if they are in fact selling their product, regardless of whom they are selling it to? Even if Thames Water owned the entire intellectual property in Leakfrog (and I am not sure that they do), QTI could still manufacture it under license and sell it at a profit, to the "inventors" as well as to third parties. Other customers will follow, but the evaluation of these things takes time.
Hope this heps.
ST
diydave
- 18 Jan 2008 16:57
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Spot on. Soul. Well put.
jmacroesus
- 29 Jan 2008 15:26
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From today's AGM statement:
'Leakfrog has been extremely well received by the water industry since its
launch and negotiations are taking place with several UK water companies and
overseas distributors. In the first half of this financial year, we have also
seen continued sales of Qonnectis' smart metering products to existing customers
such as Scottish Water, and also to new customers such as further NHS trusts
(eg. Hammersmith) and Rangers Football Club. Sales in this period were
significantly ahead of the same period last year.
oilyrag
- 29 Jan 2008 18:01
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RNS released 14:45 and sp shot up 22% since then. Hoping for a continuation tommorrow. Is breakout on the cards?.
jmacroesus
- 30 Jan 2008 09:40
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Very encouraging statement and the sp has responded accordingly but think it will take news of more Leakfrog sales to get it moving above 3.0p. Its unclear from the statement above whether sales of iStaq-based products in the first half of this FY 'were significantly ahead of the same period last year' or whether the comment applies to total sales (which we already knew - the Leakfrog sale to Thames alone was worth more than the sales for H1 of FY07).
soul traders
- 30 Jan 2008 17:37
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Good comments, guys - thanks for the posts.
I just had a quick click on new customer, Larsen Water Management.
http://www.larsenwm.com/about-us-page.html
SERVICES
Contract Leak Detection
Water Auditing
Fire, Flow & Pressure Testing
Data Logger Field-Tests
Fuel & Chemical Pipe Leak Detection
Pipe Tracing
Leakage Monitoring
Installation, Commissioning & Servicing (Confined Spaces certified)
SALE & HIRE
We are suppliers of specialist equipment all of which are for sale/hire
Data Loggers
Leak Detection Equipment
Pressure Reducing Valves
Training
It looks as if it could be a good source of business for QTI, as it is a seller of leak-monitoring equipment, etc., etc., and so should be placing repeat orders if it's impressed with the products.
WDIK, PDYOR, etc.
Toya
- 30 Jan 2008 20:04
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I attended the AGM yesterday but was then seduced away for the evening so unable to log in again till tonight.
Very positive mood and clearly big opportunities for sales to all the water companies as well as direct sales to the end-user (e.g. businesses, NHS Trusts, football clubs).
It was great to see Leakfrog in the flesh its a neat gadget that clips directly onto a water meter. Enquiries are coming in from above-mentioned types of customers, both in the UK and from the Continent and even as far afield as Australia. QTI has three in-house sales staff who are responsible for developing partnerships and sales channels so the company is not risking big overheads in an increased sales force of their own. The move to smarter (but cost-effective) offices means that they now have suitable premises where high-level sales negotiations can be conducted. QTI will be attending relevant exhibitions, e.g. Ireland next month, UK in May, and EU later in the year.
Government moves to encourage utility monitoring will (in my view) only increase, and I am confident that QTI have a ready-made market for their products. The sp may dodge about a bit but its worth a long-term hold I reckon and thats coming from someone who can be a bit impatient at times!
oilyrag
- 31 Jan 2008 07:34
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Never mind QTI Toya, tell us more about your seduction last night. Only joking haha.
Toya
- 31 Jan 2008 07:52
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Morning Oily!