Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Excelent points made Fred and George.

Sometimes the policies are right, but often there is an absolute glee by some who are "privileged", shown by their seemingly absolute delight when implementation of the policy deprives others, who are less fortunate than themselves, of a reasonable level of "Welfare", or "Social" benefits. This delighted group appear to wish to see claimants jump through more and more complicated hoops to obtain that, which they are legally and "morally" entitled to.

Often, hoping and contented that the claimants do not have the resources, or faculties to fend appropriately for themselves.

This group of superior beings, who gain their obvious satisfaction from such described actions, would have similar characteristics as children, who would laugh and cheer themselves on, while tearing wings of flies.

There seems to be a wish by many reactionaries to return to the crudities and social and living standards and care as in the early 1900s and 1930s. Everybody in their proper place as define by those who have and grasps what they have to their chests.

Of course those condition are not suitable for themselves, just THE OTHERS.

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Judge John Bevan QC said: "Because some of the defendants do not speak good enough English, despite having lived here a long time, three interpreters have worked full time during this case, at a cost of over £30,000."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-25679982

aldwickk - and the British taxpayers will now be funding their jail terms.

there is an absolute glee by some who are "privileged", shown by their seemingly absolute delight when implementation of the policy deprives others

specifics please especially re their motivation and other bits .... racing certainty that you are embroidering to suit your views

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another racing certainty ....
fossy won't respond, but will merely expect the gullible to accept his left-of-socialist viewpoint

I have seen absolutely no evidence of any glee by privileged people at the prospect of depriving others. That goes for public figures or in private. The few privileged people that I know are quite concerned at the plight of those less fortunate. It all sounds like communist propaganda and certainly far left of socialist?

oh but fossy must have done for else he wouldn't write it, would he (much!)

The fall of inflation to the BoE's target of 2% means that the pressure is off regarding a rise in interest rates. One of the main reasons for lifting interest rates is to squash inflation.

true, but at the moment labour have to do very little (bugger all) leaving DC to make a bit of mess of many things

the fall in living standards and the hardship (i avoided the word penury) in its wake is a very real concern to an awfully large section of the population ..... while it's true that employment and vacancies are slowly moving up, the effect to be felt in " more cash in the pocket" for the average joe, lags quite a way behind

re; the atos thingy.

I know two people who are in receipt of disability payments.

Both were worried about the so called tests, and I helped them fill the papers in.

After reading the horror stories about atos assesments, I thought they would have problems. Not because they were not genuine, but because the game seemed loaded against you.

In both cases, they were declared no further action, and so kept their benefits.

It's not all one way.

Maxk..................................Your an angel for doing what you did


Well done mate, you should see some of the inhumanity cases I come across each weekend.

I dont think Hays in reality would accept whats really going on.

max - i equally know first hand of the reverse, though in one case i can just about see the point of the refusal .... i won't bore you with detail

I also was involved with making an application for disability benefit and carers allowance. There was not the slightest problem with either.

c.

Do bore us with the the facts.

It might help to mitigate the figs bandied about about how one million formally disabled people have suddenly found jobs.

ie, one million formally disabled peeps have come off the register, yet no increase in unemployment figs.

Where have they all gone?

They havent found jobs, they have been taken off the register.

Reason, they have income from a private pension. Told by employers they are no longer fit for purpose.

BUT 2 faced tories STILL give money to assholes who havent made provision for later life.

Totaly against their hard working propaganda.

Remember this Hays, be carefull what you wish for , life as a tendancy of doing a U turn on you and your dearest and biting you on the bottom.

Think about it.

Don't be silly, they haven't all got private pensions. I doubt that many have. A lot of the people with disability benefit are long term disabled and probably have never worked. The numbers being denied their benefits are not enough to show up in the unemployment figures, especially as unemployment's is falling.

ABSOLUTE TOSH.

You havent done your research here have you Hays and I find that disappointing of you. Disappointing of you especially.

I expect a lot more from you.

If its not a private pension its some kind of small income eg. letting of a house.

But yet we get Camoron and Sir Giddeon spouting we will look after you if your an HARD WORKING FAMILY.

Nothing more could be further from the truth, ESA which took over from sickness benefit is a MEANS TESTED BENEFIT, that means those that have paid into the system if they are slightly over the job seekers allowance of £78 per week , ie income coming in........ THEY GET NOTHING.

This is usually the hardworking people Camoron and co keep bleeting on about.

BUY if you have nothing including immigrants and you apply for ESA you get the full whack.

Now tell me this doesnt go against TORY (SO CALLED) POLICY.

Like I said earlier get a life.

Petition – Sack Iain Duncan Smith and have him investigated for crimes against humanity



We the undersigned demand that Iain Duncan Smith be immediately removed from the office of Minister for Works & Pensions and that an urgent criminal investigation is instigated against him regarding not only fraud, but also crimes against humanity.

The reasons we demand the above is that as Minister for Works and Pensions Iain Duncan Smith has knowingly pushed through changes via the Welfare Reform Act that have had no risk assessment carried out and that these changes have resulted in the death of at least 73 people a week, (according to figures published in April 2012, with the DWP refusing to publish current figures which are assessed to be hundreds more a week), who had had their benefits removed due to Atos, (the governments disability denial contractors), finding them fit for work. This alone, especially as it is clearly being done knowingly, is only one allegation of crimes against humanity against Iain Duncan Smith and that does not even take into account the suffering and hardship caused to hundreds of thousands of other people through loss of ESA, benefits sanctions and the Bedroom Tax that has been led by him.

The demand for a fraud investigation comes from the evidence that is in the public domain that he lied on his CV, (an offence others have received prison sentences for), when he put himself forward to be an MP and that he paid his wife an income for a job out of government funds when she did no work for this pay making this fraud.

We ask the government, dismiss this stain on humanity from his position and have him investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent for the crimes it is clear that he has committed.

http://iainduncansmith.com/petition-sack-iain-duncan-smith-investigated-crimes-humanity/

Please click on the above link and sign the petition. REMEMBER one day it could be you, your family, your relations, your freinds.

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