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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 13:32 - 3551 of 12628

As far as the Pound is concerned, the Australian and Tokyo exchanges were open all night.

grannyboy - 25 Jun 2016 13:34 - 3552 of 12628

It looks like when the registration site went down 10 minutes before
final registration, and the pro-eu government allowing an extra 2 days
of voting when 2 million were allowed to register(2 million that the majority
being young remainers), and now they have the temerity to start a petition up
in the hope of having a second referendum.

Before any trade deals are completed(within the 2 year period), there could be
a couple of anit-eu governments voted into power, ie Dutch, French, etc.

The Dutch will be elected on an anti-eu banner, so will definitely have a
referendum within a year of the new government, and the same with France
if Le Penn gets into power.

So saying that any trade agreement would entail having to have free movement,
could mean the advantage being to our side.

Financial Markets are 24 hours, traders do their trading around the world.

MaxK - 25 Jun 2016 14:03 - 3553 of 12628

A wheeze mooted on the wireless/social media suggests under 25yo's should register for tory membership (£5) and basically blow up the tory party a la Corbyn.

Possible?

MaxK - 25 Jun 2016 14:08 - 3554 of 12628

Why does the free movement thingy keep coming up?


Does the €U require any country that trades with it to have free movement??

If not, why not???

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 14:09 - 3555 of 12628

Only if you want completely tariff free.

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 15:04 - 3556 of 12628

1,568,740 signatures for second referendum.

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 16:04 - 3557 of 12628

Interestingly, the FTSE100 ended the week exactly where it was the previous Friday.

grannyboy - 25 Jun 2016 16:08 - 3558 of 12628

"Does the EU require any country that trades with it to have free monvement??"

Yes of course they do..Vietnam, Canada, Turkey, + 52 other countries ALL
have freedom of movement, otherwise they wouldn't be able to have a free
trade agreement...

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 16:12 - 3559 of 12628

Some buyers of Tata Steel are withdrawing due to Brexit.

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 16:16 - 3560 of 12628

The Vietnam and EU trade deal is not free trade. It has lots of tariffs. It is just a trade deal. Some tariffs are 55% on some goods. The EU tariffs for Vietnam is 680 pages long and the Vietnam one is 197 pages.

MaxK - 25 Jun 2016 18:30 - 3561 of 12628

ok, so it's tarrifs all round...fair enough, lets start with all the €U cars that we import.

Who would like to start the bidding? Germany, France, Italy...winner gets all.

Fred1new - 25 Jun 2016 19:28 - 3562 of 12628

You won't be able to afford a car in 2years time!

Petrol £5 a litre.

Haystack - 25 Jun 2016 19:39 - 3563 of 12628

Some alarming scenarios here

http://news.sky.com/story/1717492/does-a-leave-vote-definitely-mean-a-brexit

MaxK - 25 Jun 2016 20:00 - 3564 of 12628

No real alarming stuff there Haystack, just bad loser stuff.

I'm surprised at you, I thought you was an exiteer, yet you display all the trappings of an €U inner (with bells on)


As for the mp's defying the a popular vote...good luck with that, I hope they have suitable €U jobs lined up, cos they will be pariahs to their own electorate.

iturama - 25 Jun 2016 20:19 - 3565 of 12628

Merkel is quietly putting the Junky in his place. It is clearly in the UK interest to take its time and let emotions cool. Behind the doors preliminary talks should be held with Germany first. The rest don't matter, they will do what they are told otherwise no money.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said the European Union has "no need to be particularly nasty in any way" in the negotiations with Britain about its exit from the bloc.
She insisted that deterring other countries from leaving the EU should not be a priority in the talks.
And she added she was not in favour of pushing for a speedy withdrawal.
Britain narrowly voted to end its membership in a historic referendum last Thursday.
Mrs Merkel was speaking after several EU foreign ministers - including Germany's - had urged Britain to quickly implement its exit.
"It shouldn't take forever, that's right, but I would not fight for a short timeframe," she said.
She added that she was seeking an "objective, good" climate in the talks with Britain, which "must be conducted properly".

Fred1new - 25 Jun 2016 20:53 - 3566 of 12628

Brexiters are the blind which a psychopath is hoping to lead to their "promised land".



grannyboy - 25 Jun 2016 21:02 - 3567 of 12628

Its about time those remainers who are 'remaining' in the past need
to look to the future with optimism and realise there is a new growing
world out there waiting to do business with the UK....

MaxK - 25 Jun 2016 21:54 - 3568 of 12628

Spain next?


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/will_spain_be_next.html

Fred1new - 25 Jun 2016 23:02 - 3569 of 12628

The exiters have been bitching about Europe membership for over 40years, now it is the turn of the "remainers".

Wait until the bill is worked out.

jimmy b - 25 Jun 2016 23:07 - 3570 of 12628

Fred you are such an idiot ,petrol £5 a liter ,you won't be able to buy a car ! .

Lucky for you ,you have quite a few bad losers around you who can not except the decision that was taken by the electorate .
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Now i saw Dan Hannan on newsnight and he was alluding to a deal for access to the single market that would include free movement of labour which sounds like son of free movement of people !
Surely any government knows that immigration was top of why we voted to leave and they would be out of office if this was the deal struck .
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