It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

Brazil...lucky again...should be 2-2....(just offside)...

What a great match Djokovic / Dimitrov ,classic . Should be a great final on Sunday . . Sorry off topic ,i'm very lonely with my tennis .

Did you watch the men's seniors doubles Jimmy? Hilarious! Silly but funny!

Old guys showing great skills and great tennis all played in a very entertaining and delightful way.

One little boy will remember for the rest of his life, how he actually got to play tennis on No 1 Court at Wimbledon in the Senior Invitation Gentleman's Doubles with the world famous Peter McNamara and Paul McNamee against Henri Leconte and Mansour Bahrami.

And 'Yes'. Dimitrov will be back! His game with Djokovic was a thrilling game and right up until the last there could have been a reversal with the result.

No wonder Dimitrov knocked Murray out in three straight sets. His skills are stupendous.

The video shows Brazilian Luiz' brilliant free kick:



The picture shows the moment, whilst both are going at full tilt for the ball, when Columbian player Juan Camilo Zuniga bashes his knee into Neymar and gives the Brazilian star a fractured vertebra.

Brazil win 2 - 1. However, the joy of that 2-1 win was tinged with concern over the fitness of Barcelona forward Neymar, who left the field on a stretcher in the closing stages.

The 22-year-old was in tears after taking a Zuniga's knee to his back with Brazil doctor Rodrigo Lasmar confirming Neymar has sustained a fractured vertebra that will end his World Cup.

"It's not serious in the sense that it doesn't need surgery, but he'll need to immobilise it to recover," Lasmar said. "Unfortunately, he's not going to be able to play."

Lasmar expects the recovery time to be at least a few weeks, ruling Neymar out of Tuesday's semi-final against Germany and the final, should Brazil get there, on July 13.

Zuniga insisted he was "playing for the shirt from my country, not with the intent to injure", but Neymar was crying in pain as he left the stadium.

His absence will be a huge blow to Brazil, who will also be missing suspended captain Silva for their semi-final with Germany

CHRISTINE CARSON.

Carson carson, dont you wish you were Dutch like me, dont you wish you were dutch like me, Carson, Carson.

Thurp.

Get your ORANGE shirt on Christine.

Pissed again!

NO I havent had a drop, no way when my lads are playing.

Costa playing a High line........theyl suffer for it.

Chris no piss taking here but how much is the ale up in Scotland in general, a lot cheaper than here in England????????

Bloody loads of tourists for the Bike Race here. Cant move for them. Tomorrow it will be murder.

Ill be hitting the ale then.

Some goalie that Navas.

Depends where you drink gf, golf club £2.70 bowls club £2.60. There are two Wetherspoons in the City similar prices. Anywhere else anything from £3.40 to £4. No surprise where I drink then.

Tell you what Chris bringing this sub goalie on now stinks for holland.

I hope they lose now.

Pathetic totaly pathetic.

Come on Costa Rica.

Regulations should be if they are on for 90 minutes they cant change for a peanalty shoot out.

Sickened by this move, it stinks.

Blimey Chris them prices are derd cheap. All over £3.00 plus here. Think wetherspoon prices are national prices.

Sickned by whats happened.

We are cheats.

Pathetic.

FIFA need to look at this now. Its totaly ridiculous.

Dopey BBC pundits Shearer and co saying its brilliant.

Little wonder we are the worst team of the 32 in Brazil.

Until we get inteligent people in football here we will always be losers.

Good night.

Impressed with Costa Rica tonight. Even after they lost the shootout they had the grace to congratulate the Dutch. Superb in defence and unlucky themselves not to snatch a winner in extra time.

I can't for one second imagine that Holland thought they would have to go to penalties to beat them. Strange decision to change goalies. Van the man tactical genius? I don't think so.

I think that Germany will reach the final because they will puncture that shaky Brazil defense......Knocking out Argentina will take some doing.....possible...but difficult....I just not impressed with the South American teams in this world cup.....lots of passion and such, but when you get down to the nitty-gritty...: they are beatable !....one bright spot for them is that the goalkeepers are tremendous, but the defenders look very ordinary...

Everton: Only Club with Titles in 5 Different Quarter-Centuries

by Geoffrey Caveney | 06/07/2014 Comments (5) jump

Everton: Only Club with Titles in 5 Different Quarter-Centuries

Here’s another talking point to appeal to potential new American supporters (such as myself) in the wake of Tim Howard’s World Cup heroics. Americans love champions, tradition, consistent success… and statistics. Everton FC has all of these qualities in spades, and the following statistic proves it.

Everton is the only club that has won titles in the top English league in FIVE different quarter-centuries:

1876-1900: title in 1890-91

1901-1925: title in 1914-15

1926-1950: titles in 1927-28, 1931-32, 1938-39

1951-1975: titles in 1962-63 and 1969-70

1976-2000: titles in 1984-85 and 1986-87

The other top clubs have, at most, won titles in four different quarter-centuries:

Manchester United: No titles in 1876-1900 or 1926-1950

Liverpool: No titles in 1876-1900 or 2001-present

Arsenal: No titles in 1876-1900 or 1901-1925

“And if you know the history, It’s enough to make your heart go Woooooooaaaaaaarrrrrrr!!!”

Let’s win a title in a sixth quarter-century soon!


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Dennis Stevens
1 Posted 06/07/2014 at 15:48:20

Under the 24-year rule Everton should have won the title in 2011 & now be looking forward to two more titles before the next '24 year' title in 2035 & then again in 2059. That lapse is part of Moyes's legacy of failure! .
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Patrick Murphy
2 Posted 06/07/2014 at 15:48:24

We have 11 seasons to capture the top prize according to the OP but as many Evertonians are fully aware; we are currently in a period of time where a new Blue born after May 1987 is now 27 years old and will be 28 next year and that is something that hasn't happened to any new born blue throughout the clubs history.
Once every 24 years is the average for an Evertonian to see the top trophy paraded around Goodison Park, but next season would be as good as any to put that situation to rights.


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Dennis Stevens
3 Posted 06/07/2014 at 16:00:02

Not the average, Patrick, but the maximum we've ever waited - until our current title-less period. Not only did we used to win the title every 24 years, we used to win it an additional 2 times in every alternative interim period. Hence, we didn't win the title between our successes in '39 & '63, but won 2 'additional' titles between '63 & '87. .
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Mark Frere
4 Posted 06/07/2014 at 16:17:42

Unfortunately, money completely dominates the modern game... so, until a billionaire Arab or Russian buys Everton, we aren't gonna see the Premier League trophy paraded around Goodison. Seeing the back of this current board would at least be a step in the right direction. .
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Craig Harrison
5 Posted 06/07/2014 at 16:33:28

Don't worry things will turn around in a hurry. Just look at man city. As soon as bill has finished his 24/7 search and we have out new investors then we will compete at the top. Trust in bill he wouldn't lie to us. .
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Rodwell as bait for Barkley

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Premier League Champions Manchester City are supposedly weighing up a £25M move for Everton's England international midfielder Ross Barkley, 20, using former Toffees midfielder Jack Rodwell, 23, as bait — according to the Daily Mirror.
The paper claims that Man City's unsettled former Everton midfielder Rodwell, 23, is keen to return to Goodison Park after becoming frustrated by a lack of first team opportunities, and that is something Barkley would need to consider.

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Carl Peters
495 Posted 05/07/2014 at 12:22:56

I can just see Kenwright’s kipper gleaming with glee thinking £25M in, in me bin, and a crocked Rodwell to appease the fans, along with a sob story should work... DEAL! .
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Linda Morrison
507 Posted 05/07/2014 at 16:03:43

I think it's time to test the nerve of the "Bigger Clubs", If Man City are prepared to offer £25million plus Rodwell for Barkley, I suggest if a formal offer is made tell them to offer £80 million plus Rodwell and it would be discussed The tell them to piss off!
I think in the past Everton have been too soft with their players and if they want to go somewhere else we should treat them as LFC did Suarez and say NO!


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Trevor Lynes
513 Posted 05/07/2014 at 16:28:35

So all seems OK... but still no contract extension for Barkley.
Does anyone smell a rat?
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Tony Draper
514 Posted 05/07/2014 at 16:29:19

Really? You honestly do not make up stuff like this, unless you are a journalist. .
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Paul Andrews
520 Posted 05/07/2014 at 16:39:48

File under "Bollox" .
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John Raftery
522 Posted 05/07/2014 at 16:46:04

The usual garbage from another tabloid rag. Does anyone with any sense actually buy these papers? .
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Mike Manchester
523 Posted 05/07/2014 at 16:44:01

This is good news, there is no way we're selling Ross, and now they've played their hand with Jack. .
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Gary Reeves
526 Posted 05/07/2014 at 17:39:51

The sun is shining and the World Cup is still on – I'm not really up for any heavy ding-dong Everton debate but here goes.
I think a lot of you are kidding yourselves about Barkley. The evidence was there in front of your eyes all season. He's still a long way off being a great player and I'll bet you a pack of HotRod Top Trumps he'll never make a great player.

So there. I won't reply – I'm in the garden.
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Ant Dwyer
528 Posted 05/07/2014 at 17:49:15

Yeah, Mike, I agree: Rodwell available, good stuff.
One thing that does puzzle me is how much do these papers think Rodwell is actually worth?? He would be a good signing at £5M... £6M at a push... but, come on – if 9-cap, 26-year-old Lallana is worth £25M at his peak, then surely 9-cap, 20-year-old Barkley must be worth double!

The whole of the football world is talking about Ross Barkley’s talents (hence the link with the world’s richest club), so come on, Man City – bid properly so the blues can tell yas No to big bucks, as it sends a statement out.

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Ray Roche
531 Posted 05/07/2014 at 19:02:47

Ant, the problem with that is the spineless twat we've got in the chair with "Chairman" on the back of it. ANY big deal will be accepted in the way the Rooney offer was. .
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Patrick Murphy
533 Posted 05/07/2014 at 19:13:20

"City are aware they need to build up the number of homegrown players" Well that makes perfect sense to me – let Rodwell leave – who is a homegrown player to purchase Barkley who is also a homegrown player. Completely rational in the journalist's mind at least. Hard cash if we are going to sell Barkley – which we shouldn't – but no more of these drip, drip player exchange deals please.
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Dean Adams
534 Posted 05/07/2014 at 19:11:55

Trevor Lynes 513
Yes, as it happens (but that's another story).

I have to say that I really hate the transfer window crap. We get linked to average players who seem to double in price every day, whilst our players are constantly under-valued. Same shit, different window. Always the same.

Football stinks these days, since Sky took over. If it wasn't for EFC, I would not bother with the game anymore. Corruption is the norm and I just can't be bothered with the bullshit from every quarter.
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Jay Harris
536 Posted 05/07/2014 at 19:19:53

A load of bollocks based on Snodin's comment recently that no way would Ross join the RS and in fact only a few clubs could afford him "if he wanted to go".
I would consider £30 million plus Negredo if he did want to go.
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Sam Hoare
539 Posted 05/07/2014 at 19:30:16

No way he's leaving this window. Perhaps next year or the one after. Happily he is the latest victim of the hype machine so all he needs to do is play averagely next season, get in a couple of nutmegs for the MotD panel to drool over, and we can flog him for £100M next summer. .
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Tony Draper
549 Posted 05/07/2014 at 20:15:03

I completely agree with the three R's (Ross & Roberto & Rodwell) on this issue:
Nothing said = No Story.
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Raymond Fox
553 Posted 05/07/2014 at 20:16:32

Regardless of the Mirror's report being true or not, we are going to get/had approaches for Barkley, that's a certainty.
Even if the club wanted to sell at the moment, which I strongly doubt, it's going to take a much greater offer than £25M + Rodwell. What's Rodwell now worth with his history of injuries, £6M- £8M?
If we were forced to sell Ross, it should be for not less than £50M.

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Ant Dwyer
569 Posted 06/07/2014 at 00:09:38

Ray, I hope you are soooo wrong... I can’t help but feel you may not be though. Hopefully we have learnt our lesson a decade ago with the cheap sale of Rooney, £27M on the never never was crazy.
Ross to stay for as long as can be; then, if he really wants to go, make sure his contract allows us to dictate and demand a massive fee for him. If Bill is looking for how this is done, check out Daniel Levy at Spurs and you will see the perfect blueprint.
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Trevor Lynes
570 Posted 06/07/2014 at 00:09:51

Raymond, there is no way Rodwell is worth anywhere near the money you are talking about.
If Man City are seriously wanting to buy Barkley, then they must offer at least the standard of Milner plus £35 million IMO That might be worth considering! But Rodders... no way!!! I would only have him on a one season loan at best !
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Paul Dark
598 Posted 06/07/2014 at 09:27:43

What exactly does The Mirror have against Everton? .
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Mark Cooper
600 Posted 06/07/2014 at 09:44:16

Paul (598), it couldn't be anything to do with a certain Derek Mcgovern, plus the other RS reporters working for them.
Perhaps if we started showing some real intent in the market, we might start to see some of the BS replaced with fact for once. .
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Pat Waine
619 Posted 06/07/2014 at 12:19:27

Why do people attack Bill Kenwright at every opportunity? In my book, we are lucky to have him. He supports the club, has not got a sack full of money but hasn't done badly. He has managed to get us a top manager and tied him to a long contract. We were challenging for a Champions League place all last season. Not bad in my books, so cut the guy some slack. .
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Mark Burns
645 Posted 06/07/2014 at 15:39:36

I would like to think the days of selling off our players at bargain prices are behind us. If the past season is anything to go by anyway.
The fact is that, if someone comes in big, then it is hard to say no, regardless of whether we need to sell or not. He has to be worth a lot more than Lallana due to his sell-on value. Isn't that the reason why Luke Shaw was worth double that of Baines? I would like to see Rodwell back though.

Martinez heading back this week

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Roberto Martinez is finishing up his stint as a pundit on ESPN's World Cup coverage from Brazil, and is keen to get back to work with Everton youngsters Ross Barkley and John Stones after their experiences with England this summer.
Martinez believes the experience of being in and around the World Cup squad will have been beneficial to the 20-year-olds and the Everton manager – who signed a new five year contract this summer – sees the pair as integral to his “project” at Goodison Park.

“I have signed my contract at Everton – it's an exciting project,” Martinez said.

“I'm looking forward to getting back to work with young players like Ross Barkley and John Stones. I want to see them after their experience with England this summer. Ross played in the World Cup and John was on standby and also played in America before they went to Brazil.”

Most of the Everton squad who were not involved in the World Cup are expected back at the club this week before they fly to Austria for a training camp.

Stones was just behind Gareth Barry in a Finch Farm competition Martinez had in place for each training session as an incentive in which Blues players accumulated points, Everton's first-teamers battled it out to be named the 'best trainer'.

Gareth Barry won a watch with his inscription on it while Ross Barkley won a trip to watch Barcelona play at the Nou Camp.



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Frank Crewe
1 Posted 06/07/2014 at 17:10:12

What experience? Blink and you would miss it.
Have you ever wondered if players like Barkley and Stones are so good why don't continental clubs ever bid for them? The only clubs who ever show any interest in English players are other English clubs.

Maybe Barkley. Stones, Shaw, Lallana, etc aren't as good as we would like to think they are and their actual as opposed to imagined quality gets exposed every couple of years during the international tournaments in Europe and the World Cup. All of a sudden it's all eyes on the foreign players and take no notice of the English ones because they're really average.

Could Barkley or Stones play for Real Madrid or Barca? I seriously doubt it.
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Paul Andrews
2 Posted 06/07/2014 at 17:18:57

What's with all the negativity about our young players?
Lukaku getting the back torn off him on another thread and now this? .
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Frank Crewe
3 Posted 06/07/2014 at 17:23:54

I'm talking about young English players not young Belgian players. Why won't any continental club stump up £20 million for Barkley yet apparently Citeh will? .
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Eugene Kearney
4 Posted 06/07/2014 at 17:36:47

Good that Roberto is on his way back - now we should see some actual movement on transfers in......it will make a change from all the gossip/rumours we've been getting for weeks. .
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Robert Collins
5 Posted 06/07/2014 at 18:48:25

Ross Barclay and is agent win tickets to the Nou Camp?
Can't we also send along Stones, Oviedo and McCarthy that way after they've tapped Ross up in the stadium they won't have to come back for our other young talents.
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Colin Glassar
6 Posted 06/07/2014 at 18:56:56

Frank, I think it's more to do with English players inability to adapt to foreign climes that stops foreign clubs from buying them, plus the exorbitant fees they earn here.
Only a few players have made the grade abroad e.g. Keegan and woodcock in Germany (both became fluent), Beckham in Spain (learnt a bit of Spanish), Gazza in Italy (never even learnt English but he loved it over there). There's probably a few more but these are the stand out ones. Plus the fact that we are brainwashed into thinking we have the best league in the world than there's not much incentive to move abroad is there? .
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Paul Andrews
7 Posted 06/07/2014 at 19:04:56

Robert,
Is the H key broke on your laptop?
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Jamie Barlow
8 Posted 06/07/2014 at 19:05:20

I don't think it was Ross that won the trip Robert so I think we can breathe easy. .
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Mike Allison
9 Posted 06/07/2014 at 19:07:07

Frank, Real Madrid have regularly signed English players over the last 10-15 years, Woodgate, Beckham, Owen and McManaman plus Bale whose football has been in the English system.
Very few foreign clubs can match the wages paid by Premier League clubs and tend to scout in South America and Africa where they can buy talented players for, historically, far less in both transfer fees and wages. If a player is good enough for the first team in the Premier League, he's already going to command a large fee because his club will be relatively rich in global terms and won't need to sell, if he's playing in the Ivory Coast Premier League you probably won't have to shell out so much.
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All that rubbish football and no one watched one of the greatest Men's Wimbledon finals of all time .... Five sets of pure skill and athleticism