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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 11:48 - 35688 of 81564

The problem with private members bills is that there can't be a government motion for a guillotine on the time for amendments. The outcome may depend on how the speaker allows amendments to be grouped as individual items for debate. It was always a long shot as it was just a device to avoid the Libs preventing it from being a government Bill because it wasn't in the coalition agreement. The Bill is not important except that it is an indication of intent. A future government could always repeal the law for the referendum but they might do so at their peril.

goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 13:27 - 35689 of 81564

Andrew Neil on Daily politics said Camoron was wrong at PMQS the average person is worse off now than when labour were in government by £25 per week, ie £1,300 per year.

Labours outlined figures below.......

Alex Belardinelli ‏@abelardinelli
RT Matt Hancock completely wrong - taking everything into account, people are worse off ......................

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Standard Of Living Disaster.


goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 13:29 - 35690 of 81564

Camoron YET AGAIN caught telling lies

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 13:37 - 35691 of 81564

How do you calculate your average?

goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 13:50 - 35692 of 81564

Ring Andrew Neil up.

I suspect hes used the figures from the table above, ie, Institute For Fiscal Studies that Camoron and his pal Giddeon love to quote as long as it backs their argument up.

NOW who does that remind me of.

Fred1new - 22 Jan 2014 14:25 - 35693 of 81564

Manuel!

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 14:33 - 35694 of 81564

gf
If you think the figure is wrong then how do you come to that conclusion?

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 14:38 - 35695 of 81564

Update - Labour lead at 4
by YouGov in Politics
Wed January 22, 2014 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 21st January - Con 34%, Lab 38%, LD 9%, UKIP 13%;

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 14:38 - 35696 of 81564

David Blanchflower, Gordon Brown’s favourite former appointee to the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee, has come as close as his arrogance allows him to admitting he was totally wrong about everything. Back in 2009 the out-of-luck economist gazed into his faulty crystal ball and predicted that unemployment would top 5 million if the Tories came into power. In 2010 he forecast that unemployment would surge past 3 million to 3.4 million and in 2012 he predicted unemployment would go up the day before it dipped below 8%. So today’s painful admission that UK unemployment is ‘falling surprisingly fast’, which ‘is welcome good news and better than I had expected’, is a bit of an understatement. Better than expected… to the tune of millions of jobs.

cynic - 22 Jan 2014 15:02 - 35697 of 81564

hays - for all that, the criticism raised here that a lot of the additional employment is in part-time jobs has some validity .... however, far better that than no job at all and the improving trend is incontrovertible, whatever certain critics like to voice here

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 15:17 - 35698 of 81564

Given a choice between a job at lower pay or no job it is clear which wins? Lower pay and part time work are the result of supply side policies. As the economy grows the balance will shift into more permanent and better paid jobs.

goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 15:18 - 35699 of 81564

Hays cant accept the figures when they are their in black and white right in front of his nose.

goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 15:20 - 35700 of 81564

And if things are so good please be so kind to explain the continuing growth in trends of the list below............

1.Food Banks (record levels)
2.Pay Day Loans (record levels)
3.Savings accounts at lowest level in history
4.Credit Card Debt at highest level ever
5.Charity Shops, increasing by the day
6.Red Cross having to feed poor families
7.Kids going to school not having had a breakfast
8.Tax credits and housing benefit at historic highs
9. Shopping at cheap supermarkets Lidl and Aldi.

Fred1new - 22 Jan 2014 15:24 - 35701 of 81564

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 15:24 - 35702 of 81564

The usual boring crap!

cynic - 22 Jan 2014 15:25 - 35703 of 81564

sticky - don't start on that boring old mantra yet again, not least because so much of it is nonsense and irrelevant - in particular 5,7 and 9

doodlebug4 - 22 Jan 2014 15:26 - 35704 of 81564

"Kids going to school not having had a breakfast" - possibly because the parents are spending too much money in the pub, or on luxury items they cannot afford. My parents were poor when I was growing up, but my mother made sure I had eaten a plate of porridge every morning before I left for school.

goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 15:27 - 35705 of 81564

electionista ‏@electionista 7h
A map of minimum wage across Europe ............. UK a low wage economy make no wonder living standards are falling.

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goldfinger - 22 Jan 2014 15:31 - 35706 of 81564

But Cyners its the truth no matter how boring you and (deny everything) Hays find it.

Are you really living in the REAL World or are you like Camoron and a selective few toffs who have no ideas whats really going on.

cynic - 22 Jan 2014 15:32 - 35707 of 81564

a very pretty map, but does it not show that all the brown areas pay pretty much the same? ..... if not, what are the colours all about?
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