Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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A map of minimum wage across Europe ............. UK a low wage economy make no wonder living standards are falling.

But Cyners its the truth no matter how boring you and (deny everything) Hays find it.

Are you really living in the REAL World or are you like Camoron and a selective few toffs who have no ideas whats really going on.

a very pretty map, but does it not show that all the brown areas pay pretty much the same? ..... if not, what are the colours all about?

is it true that LIDL is doing well?
yes, but that is because they are deemed to offer better/best value

is it true that there are lots of charity shops in the high street?
yes, but it's a way for landlords to to escape all sorts of taxes and/or to keep some income coming in and/or because high street rents are too high to support local biz and/or because while peeps are happy to whinge about the decline of choice etc in their high streets, they didn't support the local businesses when they were there etc etc

is it true that some children go to school without breakfast?
yes, but that has long been so and is the result of a great many factors

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so which truth would you care to pick

Pretty much the same??????????????work it out over a full year. Its monthly pay.

Wont belong now before Carney is forced to raise interest rates, under pressure from world wide circumstances or we become uncompetitive and the recovery is chocked off.

People are looking too much into internal inflation and not the bigger picture.

Yes Cyners but look at the RELATIVE increase during the Coalition years.

gf
We are in a recession. That explains all your moans and groans. Get used to it.

ah, now i sort of understand what those pretty colours were about - well not really
however, one is never ever comparing apples with apples - virtually impossible i grant you - as all sorts of complicated statistics (room for many more lies and interpretations!) then have to be factored ranging from taxes, cost of housing, cost of food, cost of transport and all sorts of other stuff that can be twisted pretty much any way you like

Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 15:40 - 35713 of 35715

gf
We are in a recession. That explains all your moans and groans. Get used to it.......ends


We are in a recession!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My god Hays youve been posting here for at least 6 months that we are in a RECOVERY.

Keep off the scotch.

And the standards of living etc will improve. I doubt that much will change until the autumn.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/rfid_doctor_plans_microchip_newborns_us_europe.htm

FRED, can you believe that post(35713) from Hays???????

Do you think hes getting a bit forgetful ?

Fred can't remember

If it makes you happier then I Will rephrase it for you.

We are still suffering the consequences of a recession which was made worse by the actions of the last government. Those consequences will abate and we will be better off and happier in the fullness of time.

Ho Ho Ho, one hell of a climb down.

GF-----Most if not all of your list of 9 can be attributed to the fact that immigration was allowed to run riot under Labour with the consequential low wages.
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george - that's one hell of leap of logic that i don't think can actually be borne out .....

there's no doubt that the level of unbridled immigration that was (and still is) permitted has had a deleterious effect on many parts of the economy and also strained the benefit system, but your comment is far too sweeping

Don't give it the brush off (pun) cynic. It's well known that wages have been held down and immigrant workers prepared to take less than minimum wage is a major factor, especially amongst the lower paid, and many employers quite happy to exploit the situation.
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Bust, booom of Cameroon, Porky and Haze.

Check purchasing power of £, inflation. hours worked, and "production" for export,and % of GDP. Compare with 2010 and now.

Cameron and Hazy pick data and hypes the representation of it.

After 3 years of repressing an economy you would expect better.

George if thats the case why havent the DWP been prosecuting more employers. Surely they havent been turning a blind eye just to help out Dave and Giddeon carry out their flawed austerity plan.

A nudge nudge wink wink from I D S ehhhhh.