goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 22 Jan 2014 15:40
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gf
We are in a recession. That explains all your moans and groans. Get used to it.
cynic
- 22 Jan 2014 15:43
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ah, now i sort of understand what those pretty colours were about - well not really
however, one is never ever comparing apples with apples - virtually impossible i grant you - as all sorts of complicated statistics (room for many more lies and interpretations!) then have to be factored ranging from taxes, cost of housing, cost of food, cost of transport and all sorts of other stuff that can be twisted pretty much any way you like
goldfinger
- 22 Jan 2014 16:00
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Haystack - 22 Jan 2014 15:40 - 35713 of 35715
gf
We are in a recession. That explains all your moans and groans. Get used to it.......ends
We are in a recession!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My god Hays youve been posting here for at least 6 months that we are in a RECOVERY.
Keep off the scotch.
Haystack
- 22 Jan 2014 16:01
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And the standards of living etc will improve. I doubt that much will change until the autumn.
aldwickk
- 22 Jan 2014 16:03
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goldfinger
- 22 Jan 2014 16:03
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FRED, can you believe that post(35713) from Hays???????
Do you think hes getting a bit forgetful ?
aldwickk
- 22 Jan 2014 16:11
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Fred can't remember
Haystack
- 22 Jan 2014 16:13
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If it makes you happier then I Will rephrase it for you.
We are still suffering the consequences of a recession which was made worse by the actions of the last government. Those consequences will abate and we will be better off and happier in the fullness of time.
goldfinger
- 22 Jan 2014 17:11
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Ho Ho Ho, one hell of a climb down.
2517GEORGE
- 22 Jan 2014 17:17
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GF-----Most if not all of your list of 9 can be attributed to the fact that immigration was allowed to run riot under Labour with the consequential low wages.
2517
cynic
- 22 Jan 2014 17:25
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george - that's one hell of leap of logic that i don't think can actually be borne out .....
there's no doubt that the level of unbridled immigration that was (and still is) permitted has had a deleterious effect on many parts of the economy and also strained the benefit system, but your comment is far too sweeping
2517GEORGE
- 22 Jan 2014 17:33
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Don't give it the brush off (pun) cynic. It's well known that wages have been held down and immigrant workers prepared to take less than minimum wage is a major factor, especially amongst the lower paid, and many employers quite happy to exploit the situation.
2517
Fred1new
- 22 Jan 2014 17:39
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Bust, booom of Cameroon, Porky and Haze.
Check purchasing power of £, inflation. hours worked, and "production" for export,and % of GDP. Compare with 2010 and now.
Cameron and Hazy pick data and hypes the representation of it.
After 3 years of repressing an economy you would expect better.
goldfinger
- 22 Jan 2014 17:45
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George if thats the case why havent the DWP been prosecuting more employers. Surely they havent been turning a blind eye just to help out Dave and Giddeon carry out their flawed austerity plan.
A nudge nudge wink wink from I D S ehhhhh.
cynic
- 22 Jan 2014 17:58
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because it's a racing certainty that many of these chaps and chapesses are working cash-in-hand
for all that, i will yet again sing the praises of our local polish car-wash chap and his crew ...... he has worked very long and hard and now has two sites, both of which are well supported by the locals
2517GEORGE
- 22 Jan 2014 18:02
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GF-----They have been prosecuting employers, why they aren't prosecuting more is probably due to cutbacks.
2517
Haystack
- 22 Jan 2014 18:06
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In the last year of the previous government there was just one prosecution.
Haystack
- 22 Jan 2014 18:44
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The best way to stop interest rates rising is to keep inflation down. One method of keeping inflation down is to keep wages low.
It is a vicious circle. Higher wages can cause inflation. Inflation can also cause pressure on wage rises. Once the cycle begins it is difficult to stop it. Interest rate increases can also increase inflation and pressure for wage rises. They are all interlinked. Keeping wage rises down is key to an improving economy at present.
Fred1new
- 22 Jan 2014 18:45
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So.
You don't have to copy your parents for your own lack of actions.
You have had 3.5 years to do something about it.
The government should stop bleating, but I suppose it is sheep following their leader.
Wars have been won in less time.
Chris Carson
- 22 Jan 2014 19:03
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Another 1.5 years to go then to correct the still untold damage that Labour created in 13 long years. We wont get fooled again!