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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 24 Jan 2014 16:45 - 35857 of 81564

that wasn't a very christian suggestion stan :-)

Fred1new - 24 Jan 2014 16:50 - 35858 of 81564

Just a sentimental wish!

Stan - 24 Jan 2014 17:19 - 35859 of 81564

"that wasn't a very christian suggestion stan :-)' Thank you Alf... I'll take that as a compliment -):

dreamcatcher - 24 Jan 2014 17:29 - 35860 of 81564

You are a little rebel stan. :-))

Stan - 24 Jan 2014 17:36 - 35861 of 81564

Just don't care do I DC.

dreamcatcher - 24 Jan 2014 17:38 - 35862 of 81564

Haystack - 24 Jan 2014 17:53 - 35863 of 81564

Stan
Have you met IDS? Do you know the good work he does through the Centre for Social Justice in south London that he created under the previous Labour government in 2004? I have met him and been to meetings there as far back as 2005.

http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/

The Centre for Social Justice (CSJ) was established as an independent think-tank by the Rt Hon Iain Duncan Smith MP in 2004. As Conservative Party leader Iain Duncan Smith spent time in many of the UK’s most disadvantaged communities, with people whose lives were blighted by social breakdown and the poverty it created. As he later wrote, he encountered 'levels of social breakdown which appalled me. In the fourth largest economy in the world, too many people lived in dysfunctional homes, trapped on benefits. Too many children were leaving school with no qualifications or skills to enable them to work and prosper. Too many communities were blighted by alcohol and drug addiction, debt and criminality, many of them with stunningly low levels of life expectancy.’

Fred1new - 24 Jan 2014 18:45 - 35864 of 81564

Well at least he recognised the problem.

His solution is the problem.

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Did he have a strange degree from an Italian University?

MaxK - 24 Jan 2014 19:40 - 35865 of 81564

MaxK - 24 Jan 2014 19:42 - 35866 of 81564

Chris Carson - 24 Jan 2014 23:24 - 35867 of 81564

David Cameron will feel a real sense of belonging as he presses the flesh at Davos. Who would have thought it? Had the global power summit been held just a few months ago, he would have undertaken that pilgrimage as acknowledged steward of an ailing, troubled economy. The story he might tell now permits a certain swagger.

There is now a "recovery for all," he declares, as analysts say the earnings of the majority are now increasing by more than inflation. Ministers point to new figures suggesting that all except the richest 10% had their take-home wages increase by at least 2.5% once tax cuts were taken into account.

Add to that the news about unemployment; now down to 7.1%, and rising house prices, and the news that the Bank of England will not soon raise interest rates, and one sees how the prime minister is able to frame a narrative about how the strictures of austerity are beginning to reap the benefits.

Those here who have witnessed the chaos in Whitehall and Westminster these past four years may look askance at the notion that the pieces of the jigsaw are being methodically assembled, but in Davos this will undoubtedly play well.

And what can one conclude from the strategising of recent days? That once again, it's about the economy, stupid! The debates on immigration and welfare may provide unpleasantly discordant mood music, but the real battleground will be about the state of the recovery and who can be relied upon to deliver it.

And therein lies a problem and a decision for Labour. Is it going to spend the next months talking the economy down while the Tories beam optimism? That's a trap best avoided. For all our cynicism, there is still superior force in the politics of hope. Optimism is a much more powerful electoral stimulant than pessimism. Labour cannot allow this to become a contest between Sunny Dave and Jeremiah Ed.

Of course Labour must flag up any deceit over the government's figures if they seem questionable. Already that is happening. The shadow Treasury minister Cathy Jamieson insists the cheery figures on pay have been massaged and draw attention away from matters such as cuts to tax credits and child benefit, both of which have hit working families. She says that in fact real annual wages have fallen by £1,600 since 2010 and cites figures from the Institute for Fiscal Studies indicating that "families are on average £891 worse off as a result of tax and benefit changes since 2010".

That is all well and good. But over and above any focus on the coalition's failings, Labour must have a coherent plan about how it will do better. The lack of that narrative is probably why Labour has so far failed to pull away in the polls and is now seeing its poll lead tighten. The latest ICM poll for the Guardian estimated the lead at just 3%.

That said, the determinant will not, in fact be what politicians say, or even what the media say about the state of the economy. People's anger with politicians and the media is such that neither of us are fully believed anyway. The crucial factor will be whether or not people actually feel change for the better in their own lives, and the lives of their families and neighbours. Only then will they pay attention to politicians and the media, and whether what they hear chimes with their real-life experience.

It will be about the economy, but the real economy, and not the picture as drawn in the Westminster village or the high-powered salons of Davos. Seen in those terms, there is all to play for.

Chris Carson - 24 Jan 2014 23:40 - 35868 of 81564

Guess which paper the above article has been taken from GF? Three per cent lead eh! Massive, I bet your sat sat there with bated breath waiting with anticipation for the question to be answered :-

"That is all well and good. But over and above any focus on the coalition's failings, Labour must have a coherant plan about how it will do better. The lack of that narrative is probably why Labour has so far failed to pull away in the polls and is now seing its poll lead tighten. The latest ICM poll for the Guardian estimated the lead at just 3%.

OOOpps!

hilary - 25 Jan 2014 08:51 - 35869 of 81564

Stan,

You're developing a bit of a reputation as being one of those brave souls cowards who likes to speak ill of the dead. First it was Maggie and, more recently, I noticed it was Ron Noades (who so happens to have been a neighbour of mine and also one of the nicest people you could wish to meet).

Remember, I don't go to boozers for a pie and a pint, and I haven't had to resort to 'playing' walking football because my beer belly encumbers my movement. You should be careful of what you wish for. Statements like yours have been known to come back and bite people on the backside.

But now I know which button to press, maybe I'll allow my finger to slip a bit more often.

Fred1new - 25 Jan 2014 09:21 - 35870 of 81564

But has Hairy one changed her knickers yet!

Chris Carson - 25 Jan 2014 09:25 - 35871 of 81564

Typical, the resident Communist has come out to play! :O)

MaxK - 25 Jan 2014 09:26 - 35872 of 81564

Boris Johnson's father calls for 'popular uprising' against HS2

Stanley Johnson rallies north London residents against high-speed line, which will come 10 metres from his £4m house


Gwyn Topham, transport correspondent


theguardian.com, Friday 24 January 2014 18.20 GMT



Stanley Johnson at his home in Primrose Hill, north London, near the proposed HS2 route. Photograph: Nigel R Barklie/Rex Features



Opponents of HS2 in London's Primrose Hill have been rallied to action by the mayor of London's father, Stanley Johnson, calling for a "popular uprising" in the borough of Camden.

Warning not only of the cost and disruption of the construction, but the project's breaches of human rights and security implications, Johnson demanded that the scheme's architect, Lord Adonis, be stripped of his title of Baron of Camden, for the damage he would wreak on the borough. He asked a 500-strong audience of local residents, council leaders and MPs: "Would you call Bomber Harris Air Vice Marshall of Berlin?"

Johnson, whose £4m house in Park Village East will lie within 10 metres of the new subterranean track, said the proposed anchoring system along the HS2 track at that point was untested. He said: "It's never been tried, except perhaps in Japan, on the sea-wall at Fukushima."

Referring to newspaper stories of British jihadists in Birmingham, he said: "What about terrorism? With HS2 these young girls are going to get down from Birmingham 20 minutes quicker."


More NIMBYSM here:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/24/boris-johnson-father-popular-uprising-hs2

aldwickk - 25 Jan 2014 09:51 - 35873 of 81564

Fred1new - 25 Jan 2014 09:21 - 35872 of 35874

But has Hairy one changed her knickers yet!


What a stupid childish remark

aldwickk - 25 Jan 2014 09:58 - 35874 of 81564

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25886638

Haystack - 25 Jan 2014 11:04 - 35875 of 81564

Who rembers this from the start of the Coalition.

It is a convention for outgoing ministers to leave a note for their successors with advice on how to settle into the job. But Byrne's note – which he later said was intended as a private joke – drew attention to Labour's economic record when it was revealed by Laws at a press conference today.

Laws told reporters: "When I arrived at my desk on the very first day as chief secretary, I found a letter from the previous chief secretary to give me some advice, I assumed, on how I conduct myself over the months ahead.

"Unfortunately, when I opened it, it was a one-sentence letter which simply said: 'Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,' which was honest but slightly less helpful advice than I had been expecting."

MaxK - 25 Jan 2014 11:25 - 35876 of 81564

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