goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 26 Jan 2014 18:40
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i read that too, but
(a) the company concerned in romania was forced to withdraw the names of the companies with which it alleged it had links/offers - it had nothing of the sort
and
(b) as it stands, it would seem that in principle these apprenticeships cannot be refused to any eu citizen, always provided the company concerned agrees to accept them and that they fulfill certain other criteria
it would have been better if you had posted the full story - in synopsis would have been better still!!
MaxK
- 26 Jan 2014 18:59
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That was the whole story as published in the torygraph, don't know about the ST.
cynic
- 26 Jan 2014 20:04
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that's the thing about newspapers (or politicians) telling the truth!
Haystack
- 26 Jan 2014 20:31
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From 2007
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/the%2Beconomy%2Bis%2Bsafe%2Bin%2Bour%2Bhands/1207747.html
'The economy is safe in our hands'
By Gary Gibbon, Faisal Islam
Updated on 19 December 2007
Brown and Darling defend their handling of Northern Rock and the credit crunch.
Don't worry - the fundamentals of the British economy remain sound, Gordon Brown declared today, as he insisted the country would be able to 'weather' financial turbulence across the world.
The Prime Minister - flanked by the Chancellor throughout his regular monthly press conference - also defended his handling of the Northern Rock crisis, firmly pinning the blame for what had happened to the bank's Board and the financial services authority.
But there's an unpredictable economic outlook haunting Mr Brown this Christmas - as our political editor, Gary Gibbon, reports.
But from subprime housing markets to the credit crunch - concerns about economic stability are growing around the world. So can Britain really withstand the storm as readily as the Prime Minister and Chancellor claimed? Our economic correspondent Faisal Islam reports tonight.
Haystack
- 26 Jan 2014 21:57
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From the GUARDIAN
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/18/observer-poll-osborne-cameron-economy
Economy 'safe in Cameron and Osborne's hands'
Blow for Labour as a new poll shows one in three now believe the Tory leadership is the best option for the country's fortunes
David Cameron and George Osborne are increasingly regarded by the public as the best team to handle the British economy, a new poll suggests.
One in three believe the Tory leadership provides the best option for the country as it emerges out its economic downturn. This compares to just 18% who believe Ed Miliband and his shadow chancellor Ed Balls would be the best custodians of the economy - down 3 points on polling carried out last summer.
Just 7% said the Nick Clegg and business secretary Vince Cable were the ones they would trust the most with the economy while 30% said they do not trust any of the leadership teams and the rest told pollsters they do not know.
The Opinium/Observer poll will come as a major blow to Labour who last week sought to flesh out their economic vision.
Miliband has promised he has the strength to tackle the vested interests in Britain and force the big five banks to sell branches to at least two new challenger banks.
His proposals put Lloyds and RBS in the line of fire, and his promise to break them up hit their share price on Friday, as the shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna had predicted might happen.
However it would appear that Miliband faces an uphill struggle to persuade the public that Labour can be trusted to look after the economy.
It would appear that even many of its own voters are not convinced that the two men at the top of the party are the best option for the country. Half (53%) said they would choose Miliband and Balls over the rest to handle the economy but that compared to 88% of Conservative voters who choose the prime minister and chancellor.
A quarter of Labour voters said they did not trust any of the mainstream parties in a finding that may give hope to Nigel Farage's Ukip, which often proves to be the choice of the voters disaffected with Miliband's party. Meanwhile Labour has dropped one percentage point over the last two weeks to 36% in the polls - just six points ahead of the Tories on 30%. The Liberal Democrats remain at 8%. Ukip is on 17%.
Chris Carson
- 26 Jan 2014 22:16
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Senior business figures hit out at Labour's 50p tax rate plan
Heads of 24 of Britain’s most successful companies warn that Ed Miliband’s policy could threaten recovery and cost jobs
Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls
Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, is facing criticism over his plan to raise the top rate of tax to 50p Photo: Getty Images
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Senior business figures have launched a strong and united attack on Labour’s pledge to raise the top rate of tax to 50p.
In the strongest criticism so far, the heads of 24 of Britain’s most successful companies warned in a letter to The Telegraph - copied below - that Ed Miliband’s policy would threaten the recovery and cost jobs.
Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, has been severely criticised by rival politicians, industry figures and some members of his own party since announcing the policy. Mr Balls insisted that his party was “pro-business” but claimed it was needed to close the budget deficit, which is forecast to be £78 billion at the next election.
However, he admitted he could not say how much the change would raise.
The signatories of today’s letter include Sir Stuart Rose, the chairman of Ocado, Sir Ian Cheshire, the chief executive of the DIY giant Kingfisher, and Neil Clifford, the chief executive of the footwear retailer Kurt Geiger.
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They warn that the 50p rate “will have the effect of discouraging business investment in the UK” and is a “backward step” that would quickly lead to job losses.
Charlie Mullins, the founder of Pimlico Plumbers, said it would trigger an exodus of investors like that seen in France after President François Hollande increased the top rate of tax to 75 per cent.
“It would be suicidal,” he said. “Business people are against paying tax, just not at such a punitive rate.”
Another signatory is Richard Caring, the owner of Le Caprice and the Ivy restaurants who has an outstanding £2 million loan to the Labour Party.
He said he was “deflated to see this negative political attack on those trying to support the fragile recovery … This is a complete downer and discouragement for entrepreneurs”.
Sir Stuart, who led Marks & Spencer for six years, added: “This will put at risk all the good work that has been done to put the economy back on track.”
Sir Ian, whose company’s stores include B & Q and Screwfix, said: “Raising the rate is bad economics and sends an anti-business message.”
Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, urged George Osborne to “open up some more blue water” between the Tories and Labour and cut the top rate back to the pre-2008 rate of 40p.
Mr Johnson writes in his Telegraph column today that politicians should encourage those who “put in the back-breaking hours” and without whom the welfare state could not exist.
He adds that Mr Balls’s proposal shows “the real instincts of the Labour party, now way to the Left of New Labour: populist, anti-capitalist and anti-business”.
Lord Jones, the former Labour trade minister and chairman of the CBI, accused Mr Balls of appealing to tribalism with a measure that was “great politics but it’s lousy economics”.
He added that if Mr Balls became chancellor he would be “amazed” if he resisted putting the rate up further to 60p – a level last seen in 1988.
The shadow chancellor insisted he would not go that far, saying: “It’s absolutely not back to the 1980s or 1990s.”
He also told BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show that he was unsure how much extra revenue the measure would bring in, but said the 50p rate — introduced as a stop-gap measure in response to the financial crisis in 2009 — had brought in £10 billion over three years.
He said independently verified Government figures that showed cutting the top rate to 45p had only cost the country £100 million were “highly uncertain”.
The views of business leaders on tax policy have played a crucial role in previous election campaigns.
In March 2010, 23 senior businessmen endorsed George Osborne’s plan to halt planned increases in National Insurance, in a major boost to the party.
The Letter
Dear Sir,
We are concerned to see Ed Balls and the Labour Party calling for higher taxes on businesses and business people.
We think that these higher taxes will have the effect of discouraging business investment in the UK.
This is a backwards step which would put the economic recovery at risk and would very quickly lead to the loss of jobs in Britain.
Your sincerely
John Ayton, Chairman, Bremont
Karren Brady, Vice Chairman, West Ham United
Richard Caring
Sir Ian Cheshire, Chief Executive, Kingfisher
Neil Clifford, Chief Executive, Kurt Geiger
Andrew Coppel, Chief Executive, De Vere Group
Peter Cullum, Executive Chairman, Towergate
Philip Dilley, Chairman, London First
Rupert Gavin, CEO, Odeon UK
Michael Gutman, Chief Executive, Westfield Group
Anya Hindmarch, Founder, Anya Hindmarch
Brent Hoberman, Executive Chairman, mydeco
Luke Johnson, Chairman, Risk Capital
Mike Lynch, Chairman, Invoke Capital; Founder, Autonomy
Alistair McGeorge, Chairman, New Look
Charlie Mullins, Founder and CEO, Pimlico Plumbers
Tim Oliver, Founder and Chairman, Hampden
Sir Stuart Rose, Chairman, Ocado
Rob Templeman, Chairman British Retail Consortium, Gala Coral and the RAC
Michael Tobin, Chief Executive, Telecity
Ted Tuppen, Founder, Enterprise Inns
Joseph Wan, CEO, Harvey Nichols
Paul Walsh
Will Wyatt, CEO, Caledonia
Sir Hossein Yassaie, Chief Executive, Imagination Technologies
This letter is signed in a personal capacity.
MaxK
- 27 Jan 2014 00:30
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How much do the heads of 24 of Britain’s most successful companies pay in tax?
% wise?
cynic
- 27 Jan 2014 07:57
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now define "heads" .... do you mean the CEO? .... if so, then probably an awful lot more than might be imagined from the rantings of some on this site
of course, the same is true about bankers' bonuses about which we all get so hot under the collar
cynic
- 27 Jan 2014 07:59
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special request from the senile member
please can those whom it may concern please learn to paraphrase the salient parts of articles instead of just c+p'ing the whole newspaper!
MaxK
- 27 Jan 2014 08:23
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Taken from the article above:
"the heads of 24 of Britain’s most successful companies"
Stop nit picking, you know perfectly well what is meant.
cynic
- 27 Jan 2014 08:27
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it's not nit-picking at all; it's a singularly relevant question to which you clearly do not know the answer
if it refers to the CEOs, then i have assuredly answered it - so stop nit-picking :-)
MaxK
- 27 Jan 2014 08:51
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ok, fair enough, you don't know the answer either.
cynic
- 27 Jan 2014 09:05
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no i don't :-))
i'm sure our our local, supercilious armchair politician does - or at least he'll pretend as much, or even more likely, give a response that doesn't actually answer the question at all
Fred1new
- 27 Jan 2014 09:24
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Max,
Leave Minuel alone, he is just a miserable nit-picker with a short term memory loss.
Just let him scratch himself.
Fred1new
- 27 Jan 2014 10:01
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Is the figure in blue Manuel, Haze or somebody else.

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Haystack
- 27 Jan 2014 10:28
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Mass demonstrations in France against Hollande's handling of the Economy. There were 250 arrests yesterday during protests at Hollander's socialist policies. There is widespread anger at the increases in income tax at all levels.
Haystack
- 27 Jan 2014 14:06
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I have just made some watercress soup. Delicious!
Oakapples142
- 27 Jan 2014 16:27
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What a "Balls up" by the Shadow Chancellor - I am to-day losing more than I would with the tax increase to 50p he is so bloody prour of.
cynic
- 27 Jan 2014 16:37
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the one has nothing to do with the other
just be thankful than EM+co are even more incompetent and inept that the other idiots