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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 11:37 - 36 of 1034

Cheers squirrel.

Here goes.

If this is indeed being served up later on today, we'll see some fire works

Glenn Beck to Break WhistleBlower Revelation That Will ‘Take Down’ GOP, Dems, ‘Whole Power Structure’


http://www.silverdoctors.com/glenn-beck-to-break-whistleblower-revelation-that-will-take-down-gop-dems-whole-power-structure/



edit; sorry guys, just saw that gaz has already posted it.

Never mind....... at least the live link worked :-)

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:02 - 37 of 1034

Well done Snurks - welcome to the techies world (I'm learning all sorts of stuff over here - loving it - much more user friendly).

That video is mind blowing. Trust you and Gaz will post the actual whistleblowing news as soon as it breaks.

Amazing times we live in.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:08 - 38 of 1034

omce36- 13 Jun 2013 11:00 - 35 of 37

FYG Squirrel. Frankel isn't a shorter nor is he winnifroth.
His comments certainly were not defamatory either so you might want to tone it down yourself.

Noted your comment - by his own admission he sold at a 90% loss and has continued to post negative commentary about the share. He is no longer a shareholder, having crystalised a loss. There is no defence for such negative and destructive commentary. I AM a shareholder and did not sell out therefore have not crystalised any losses. I have every right to comment about others who are deliberately trying to further damage sp value. Why keep on comenting about a share you no longer own? Time to move on if you no longer own. Why spoil it for others who still hold unless you are a shorter and have a hidden agenda.

If you are a shareholder omce36 then you might have compassion for that stance. If not then why post and defend a poster who has posted negatively for quite some time.

Like I said - I have emailed the Board of Directors this morning.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:37 - 39 of 1034

http://www.silver-coin-investor.com/silver-supply.html

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 12:39 - 40 of 1034

I do remember him telling Obama that he had 1 day to tell the public that Boston was an inside job ...or else........

but nothing ever came of that, so I'll wait and see how this pans out.

Gaz is probably your best bet for info late on in the day as I'm usually asleep by 21.00 :-)

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 12:43 - 41 of 1034

Snurks - me too. 2 hours ahead of you guys. 20.00hrs - sleep time.

It beggars belief some of the stuff coming out. It's almost as if public will either give approval or say - this has to stop and now!

To divide a nation with information is truly the way to weaken the people. Divide and conquer.

I do wonder where this info comes from. A part of me says it is in fact the governments using plants themselves. Then to disappear in a flash. It's all too bizarre.

Like information is something to be owned?

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 12:44 - 42 of 1034

"Noted your comment - by his own admission he sold at a 90% loss and has continued to post negative commentary about the share. He is no longer a shareholder, having crystalised a loss. There is no defence for such negative and destructive commentary"

It's called having an opinion! most of us have one, on the boards we follow, regardless of whether we own stock or not.

"I AM a shareholder and did not sell out therefore have not crystalised any losses. I have every right to comment about others who are deliberately trying to further damage sp value."

Of course you have every right to comment - but Frankel certainly is NOT deliberately trying to damage the SP. He is merely venting his frustration at losing so much in a company that seemed to offer potential.

"Why keep on comenting about a share you no longer own? Time to move on if you no longer own. Why spoil it for others who still hold unless you are a shorter and have a hidden agenda."

Because people find it hard to let go once they've sold.

He certainly is not a shorter. The boards are there to offer both sides - whilst negative ones that are unsubstantiated are unwelcome, a negative opinion based on the facts and events should not be. As investors we want to see both sides of the argument as long as they are put reasonably.

"If you are a shareholder omce36 then you might have compassion for that stance. If not then why post and defend a poster who has posted negatively for quite some time. "

I am a shareholder - have been for at least three years and am down 80%. I'm not as bullish as I used to be but still feel the Debt crisis and the excessive use of QE to get us out of the aforementioned by taking on much more debt is a recipe for disaster. ultimately it should feed through to PM's - why it hasn't to date is a mystery.

Frankel(aka NTD) certainly hasn't been defamatory and you are wasting your time bothering the management of AGQ with something so trivial frankly. They need to focus on sorting out the underperforming mess that AGQ currently is.

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 12:49 - 43 of 1034

omce36 I think you've got the wrong board mate.
The AGQ board is one letter further up the list

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 12:55 - 44 of 1034

I think this is place to be Snurkle - likely to be far quieter than the AGQ one. Have been reading the Advfn thread - wondered why people were setting up over here was all amongst other things.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 13:01 - 45 of 1034

omce36 - you are welcome to post about silver and related stocks and if you want how the price of silver might affect silver stocks one way or another. We moved over here because advfn has become destructive to the posting of valid information in the shape of links, charts and videos. We are community that wishes to share information.

I don't believe in destructive behaviour - either in the real world or the ethereal world. Whether some want to admit it or not - we are all interconnected. When you hurt others you ultimately hurt yourself MORE. That is a karmic fact.

I'll do everything I can to remain positive, to remain factual and realistic but what I won't do is allow negativity to destroy me, my world or my family and friends worlds or their childrens future worlds.

So here's a blast of love and light - whoosh. Hope you enjoyed that - it should make you feel loved, wanted and included.

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 13:05 - 46 of 1034

"We moved over here because advfn has become destructive to the posting of valid information in the shape of links, charts and videos. We are community that wishes to share information."

I don't blame you. Advfn is getting very tedious. Many of the changes are aimed at preventing those bastards at Directorstalk from multiple board spamming.

Here's hoping your positivity feeds through to the silver price.

I personally feel it's just a question of waiting. Patience will eventually be rewarded.

Wasn't happy about the Seda from YA Global - they're a killer. Always have been.

Sooner we get properly up and running,with the silver price moving upwards as well, the better.

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 13:23 - 47 of 1034

omce - yes I noticed those multiple postings especially first thing in a morning. I know there are problems with spammers and looks like they've spoilt it for many of us. Being precious metal folk we won't be beaten though. When one door closes another one opens.

Trying to make headway over there but it is too tedious.

I emailed AGQ BoDs this morning and I will post a reply on the AGQ board here and over there to keep it fair.

Alot of people have put in a lot of work with silver (and gold) posts - WS, Gaz, Snurkel, Sahara with the charts - alas gone now, many others have their say - it's rotten to curtail the genuine folk - most are just ordinary investors trying to secure a half decent retirement. None of those posters displays destructive behaviour, always polite, plenty of weekend banter. Stepping on folk like that is just plain wrong in my book. Community spirit will prevail - it must or we are all destroyed. As long as I have breath I will fight that.

omce36 - 13 Jun 2013 13:30 - 48 of 1034

"Alot of people have put in a lot of work with silver (and gold) posts - WS, Gaz, Snurkel, Sahara with the charts - alas gone now, many others have their say - it's rotten to curtail the genuine folk - most are just ordinary investors trying to secure a half decent retirement. None of those posters displays destructive behaviour, always polite, plenty of weekend banter. Stepping on folk like that is just plain wrong in my book. Community spirit will prevail - it must or we are all destroyed. As long as I have breath I will fight that."


Spot on. :)

Well I will be dropping by here for all things Silver going forward, and AGQ in particular. Trying to cut down on the number of boards I frequent. Still pondering which of
Advfn, Stockopedia, Motley Fool and Moneyam to bin. Suspect it will be the Fool as they're moderating it to oblivion.

Anyway, enjoy things Middle Eastern..off to hospital for second eye check up

squirrel888 - 13 Jun 2013 14:07 - 49 of 1034

wink wink - my Mum decided to delay having her cateracts done. She's ok but is going to wait until we are back then I can look after her and Dad a bit more. I told her that when she starts walking in to lamp posts then it might be time to have it done. Folks are in good spirits and very supportive. Bless them.

gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 14:35 - 50 of 1034

Greek National Strike won't be on.... National Greek TV
(they have closed it down....austerity cuts...I kid you not)

The Greek national broadcaster ERT situation is nowhere near a resolution, and the nation's political stability remains in the balance with Antonis Samaras’s coalition partners, Evangelos Venizelos
- of PASOK and Fotis Kouvelis of Democratic Left, appealing to him Wednesday for talks on the future of the TV and radio station,
- but the premier has so far stood by his decision.... to close and later reopen ERT, leaving the government’s future in doubt.

What is certain to make matters worse is that today, Greek public transport and state services will be disrupted as thousands of workers join
- a 24-hour snap general strike
- called on Wednesday by the country’s two main labor unions, GSEE and ADEDY, in protest to ERT's shut down.

(The claim is that Samaras' unilateral decision was the equivalent of a coup,
- which of course is not true:
- one can't overthrow a country
- in which sovereignty has long since been ceded to the European Commission, and Germany in specific).
zh

With the IMF refusing to fund....the...further needed "Greek Bailout"....perhaps a Cyprus style bailout ...on the horizon...to bridge the gap.
If so - wouldn't want any "response" on T.V, if ; they can..avoid it.
(possibly just - The mushroom system - keep 'em in the dark....whilst they keep piling the Sh!t on)

gazkaz - 13 Jun 2013 15:03 - 51 of 1034

The Bank of England's
Andrew Haldane is not a man to mince his words
- but perhaps the... excess truthiness.... in his latest testimony to British MPs
- may have many questioning his ability as a central-banker
(unable to lie when it is required).

Quote
"Let's be clear.
- We've intentionally .....blown the biggest.... government bond bubble... in history,"
Haldane said.
- "We need to be vigilant to the consequences..... of that bubble
- deflating more quickly....... than [we] might otherwise have wanted."
Unquote !!!!

He also described
- bond markets as .......the main risk to financial stability.
"If I were to single out what for me would be biggest risk to global financial stability right now .....
- it would be ....a disorderly reversion in the yields.... of government bonds - globally."
he said.
- There had been "shades of that"..... in recent weeks
- as government bond yields have edged higher

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jun/12/bond-bubble-threatens-financial-system



In 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 we saw 10Y bond yields surge into June only to peak and..... turn lower aggressively;
- and in 2010, 2011 and 2012 we saw a 'mini rally' in yields into June that was not sustained,
- so, as Citi FX's Tom Fitzpatrick notes, while we regularly hear the mantra for the Equity market of "Sell in May and go away"
- maybe we should have one for the Bond market
- "Buy in June after the swoon."

Tho' the Japanese may have wished they heeded the "sell in May" mantra

There's blood in the streets - Where's Buffet ?
Levered carry traders are rapidly realizing...... large crowds and small doors don't mix,
- even though if they liked the Nikkei at 16,000 they should love it at 12,700.

It appears only physical metals traders are those
- who actually dollar cost average lower, when assets are more affordable.
Either way, in Japan:

JAPAN'S NIKKEI 225 FALLS 20% FROM MAY 22 HIGH
zh

With most metals sentiment - all predominantly..... "on one side of the market"
Perhaps they ought to note... the effect above
- re "large crowds & ....small doors"



snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 17:39 - 52 of 1034

Here's the latest Bill Holter.
I'm sorry for the lack of live link as it kept telling me that I have a blocked pop up and left me with no options.

The one at work worked perfectly. Technology.......frigging frustrating stuff. Hate it as nothing is simple straight forward!!



Interest Rates Are Going Up Because…

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/interest-rates-are-going-up-because

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 18:17 - 53 of 1034

and a Bill Holter bonus one

Signs

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/signs

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 19:01 - 54 of 1034

A peach of a post - must read!!

Guest Post: Is Gold At A Turning Point?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-13/guest-post-gold-turning-point

snurkle1 - 13 Jun 2013 19:25 - 55 of 1034

Another must read!!

China is Cornering the Market on Gold!

http://www.silverdoctors.com/china-is-cornering-the-market-on-gold/#more-27869


and

I wonder where this will lead to........ I hope it will be the key to start the engine called 'fight back'

Former DOJ Prosecutor Files $3 Billion Suit Against Obama, Holder, NSA, Verizon Over PRISMGate

http://www.silverdoctors.com/former-doj-prosecutor-files-3-billion-suit-against-obama-holder-nsa-verizon-over-prismgate/
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