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BATM - Advanced Communications - bargain hunting....worth the consideration? (BVC)     

jules99 - 15 Jul 2003 23:36

Not that many people follow this board, However i thought I'd bore you folks anyways...At 20p a stock not expensive in my opinion...BATM's again i thought were a consideration, Quite rightly in the heedy old days I just couldn't afford them outright!

At only 20p the're worth it I think...cheap for the trolly...

Any holders, or followers from the heedy days...?

jules.

jules99 - 12 Sep 2003 16:05 - 36 of 61

leave us hanging...and the rest...

Red Underwing - 15 Sep 2003 11:12 - 37 of 61

Ive found some predictions for BVC results at:-
http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/z/b/bvc.l.html#cover

But they look as though they have got it all wrong!
BVC are not likely to make 16.24 next year! I suspect the decimal point needs a little adjustment & having looked at other companies, using the same site, it could be USD & not GBP! Even though they say otherwise!

You will doubtless note that 100% of the analysts agree! Thye always will ,except after a heavy night in the local winery, that might just be because there is only one.

I would add, that there seems to be a lot of news about increased activity & contracts in the telecoms world particularly in the US & Canada but I'm not sure if this will benefit BVC.

But browsing the BVC webs site might convince you one way or another.

BVC web sites: -
http://www.batm.pl/

These two seem to be the same site.
http://www.batm.com/
http://www.telco.com/

Products
http://www.avdcs.co.uk/html/nav/f2_batm.html

http://www.bluechip.lk/batm.htm


BATM has equity stakes in Lynx Photonics, Shiron Satellites, and Eldor Computers. Lynx Photonics develops robust photonic crossbar technology that is capable of handling terabits of data simultaneously. Shiron Satellites specializes in the development and manufacturing of VSAT systems and high-speed Internet satellite modems. Eldor Computers is Israel's premier integrated solutions provider. BATM also fully owns BT&T, a leading provider of telecommunications testing equipment for Israel's PTT and the Israeli defense forces.

BATM has strong strategic alliances with world leaders, such as Sun Microsystems, Nokia, IBM, Samsung, and 3M. These bases of cooperation along with BATM's leading edge capabilities are the reasons why BATM is capable of delivering the future now.
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Looks like BATM took over Telco Systems in 2000.
Telco news looks reasonable or just well presented!

Fly by Night

Red

angi - 15 Sep 2003 11:27 - 38 of 61

Red Underwing

16.24 per share is not a bad result! What is going on this morning? Every deal has been a buy but the price has gone down.

Thanks for all the info.

Red Underwing - 15 Sep 2003 12:27 - 39 of 61

I find 16.24 p unbelievably high!

16.24 cents (where do they get all these silly decimal points) also seems too high to me. Sorry an excess of decimals points is one of my hobby horses. Usually they can't get the first figure correct, so how can they expect to be right about hundreths or thousandths of that. Grrr...

I don't trust these analysts. With all the grief in the industry over the past year or so I would be happy with a reduced loss of say 8p.

I think the future looks much rosier.

Some news items to support that view but not specifically about BAT Man:

http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NYSE:NT&story=35604302

http://www.newstream.com/us/story_pub.shtml?story_id=10549&user_ip=80.6.37.73

http://www.nortelnetworks.com/corporate/news/newsreleases/2003c/09_08_03_optera_metro_5200.html?NT_promo_T_ID=optera_metro_5200_09_08_03_rln_nr

What we need now is a date for those results, we should see a notice today I would have thought. I'll just check before posting this.
No!
Nothing yet!

Red

Jumpin - 15 Sep 2003 22:50 - 40 of 61

Red, be careful, they will find out where Tracy Island is, if you keep talking about them ;)

angi - 16 Sep 2003 00:44 - 41 of 61

Tracy Island?

Red Underwing - 16 Sep 2003 18:04 - 42 of 61

Sorry Angi!
Jumpin is getting the threads mixed!

It refers to my posting on the BHM thread concerning The completion of their 'Fab Lab'

If you think you might fancy a holiday on Tracy Island you can check it out at:

http://www.otherlandtoys.co.uk/tracy.htm

Fly by Night

Red

Jumpin - 16 Sep 2003 18:16 - 43 of 61

Whoops! Wrong company and wrong thread! :)

Red Underwing - 19 Sep 2003 09:43 - 44 of 61

Finally we have the date 26th Sept.

Next Friday!

Will they come up smelling of roses or the other stuuf thatb makes the roses grow?

Fly by Night

Red

jules99 - 19 Sep 2003 19:52 - 45 of 61

Red Underwing Thats right 26th September...Hopefully a new high from here onwards...26/27+ would be newbreakout...any thoughts for next week..?

Jules99.

Red Underwing - 20 Sep 2003 00:42 - 46 of 61

Looking at the chart through my crystal ball I think 27/28 is achievable. 27.7 it say here ;-)

But what happens if they turn in a loss of say 10P/share (the downside). I can't see the price holding.

If the loss is 1p & an upbeat statement concerning trading & contracts & prospects, then the price should carry on up.

A modest profit & an upbeat outlook would see them fly IMO.

I'd prefer not to take the risk & would be happy to exit with any sort of profit. I need 23.7p to break even.

I'll consider a limit sale sometime into the week!

Fly by Night

Red

TomL - 21 Sep 2003 21:42 - 47 of 61

The risks on this are extreme imo. Fwiw, I believe a reversion to 7p is on the cards versus 70p+ on a breakout through 30p from these levels (23-25p).

Nag, Dyor etc.
TomL.

Red Underwing - 21 Sep 2003 23:49 - 48 of 61

TomL

what is your reasonimg?

What is your opinimon of the analysts froecast of 26 p EPS for 2003/4?

See:
http://www.research.reuters.co.uk/Research/Earnings.asp?ticker=BVC.L&country=GB&mxid=100050837&companyName=BATM+ADVANCED+COMMUNICATIONS+LTD&sym=RE

and (this is a repeat from above):
http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/z/b/bvc.l.html#cover


Fly by Night

Red

jules99 - 22 Sep 2003 01:33 - 49 of 61

up 15% friday...this week the chart looks excellent...

stormy ride mind you..

Red Underwing - 24 Sep 2003 09:32 - 50 of 61

From the Indy on Saturday
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/market_report/story.jsp?story=445179

Traders moved into fellow telecom equipment group BATM Advanced Communications, pushing its shares 3.25p to 23.75p. "Given the re-rating we have seen at Spirent in recent weeks, a similar trend may well be on the cards at BATM", said one trader. The stock is underpinned by 11p a share of cash on its balance sheet and is expected to posts interim results next Friday.

Fly by Night

Red

elgreco - 24 Sep 2003 10:19 - 51 of 61

The answer is NO.

jules99 - 24 Sep 2003 12:01 - 52 of 61

Price appears to be turning positive ...suspision is BATM'S could be the silent surprise of the week...

+3% at noon...

Red Underwing - 25 Sep 2003 22:33 - 53 of 61

Well tomorrow the results! I hope they are good.
Meanwhile a couple of news items I hadn't seen before.

From the Optical keyhole site:
http://www.opticalkeyhole.com/keyhole/html/cosearch.asp?coid=322&coname=BATM+Advanced+Communications+Ltd&subs=0

Looking up BVC I found these two news headlines, which I have not seen on any other less specialised news feed.

I can't read the body without subscribing & at 125 USD a week I don't think I will! Although its only 275 USD for a month.

8/25/2003 Israeli integrator Netcom Systems deal could yield $5m over 3 years for broadband specialist BATM
8/5/2003 BATM signs distributor agreement with China Wireless Communications targeting enterprise market in China

Fingers tightly crossed

Fly by Night

Red

jules99 - 26 Sep 2003 01:10 - 54 of 61

hey RED,

Now thats looks very promising, I hope this news is popular...tomorrow/today shall we say...

:-)

angi - 26 Sep 2003 09:54 - 55 of 61

Minus 13% doesn't look very good. Is this just because the rest of the market is retreating or is it time to jump. I see that a few more people are buying than selling but not a lot.
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