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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 29 Jan 2014 20:06 - 36043 of 81564

WELL WELL WELL, I KNEW IT EXISTED BUT COULD NEVER FIND IT...........check this out just goes to show what liars the PRESENT Tory SCUM are.................

Last Updated: Monday, 3 September 2007, 19:56 GMT 20:56 UK

Tories 'to match Labour spending'

George Osborne
Mr Osborne has promised to make economic stability the priority

Osborne on spending

A Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said.
He pledged two years of 2% increases. The final year total would be reviewed.

He told the BBC he wanted to see a shift in taxation from income being taxed to pollution being taxed.

But Chancellor Alistair Darling said the Tories had given a "panicked response" to Labour's plans and that the sums did not "add up".

'No up-front tax cuts'

Mr Osborne said government spending under the Conservatives would rise from £615bn next year to £674bn in 2010/11. He said, like Labour, the final year total would be reviewed in 2009.


See public spending breakdown
He said the move would create "headroom" for lower taxes because the economy is expected to grow faster than public spending.

Mr Osborne said: "The result of adopting these spending totals is that under a Conservative government there will be real increases in spending on public services, year after year.

"The charge from our opponents that we will cut services becomes transparently false."

He added: "At the same time the share of national income taken by the state will start to fall, as the economy grows faster than the government does.


Any reduction we offer in one tax will have to be matched by a tax rise elsewhere
George Osborne, shadow chancellor

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"Pursuing this approach over an economic cycle creates the headroom for sustainably lower taxes."

He added no unfunded tax cuts would be promised at the next election.

He said: "There will also be no election promises of up-front, unfunded tax cuts.

"Any reduction we offer in one tax will have to be matched by a tax rise elsewhere."

Mrr Darling dismissed Mr Osborne's announcement, saying the Tories would not be able to make good their promises.

'Panicked response'

"In recent weeks the Conservatives have been proposing tax cuts amounting to £21bn," he said in a statement.

"Now they claim they can match Labour on public spending. They can't and their sums don't add up.

"This is the latest panicked response from the Conservative Party who have simply not thought their arguments through."

Mr Osborne's announcement came as it emerged Johan Eliasch had resigned as a deputy treasurer of the Conservatives.

Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown said he wanted to reach out to new supporters
A Tory spokesman said the sportswear tycoon - who loaned the party £2.6m - would continue to offer financial and political support.

But a report in The Times said the businessman had quit his post because of Tory leader David Cameron's "lurch to the right" in policy making.

A Conservative spokesman said: "He has resigned because he didn't feel he had time to do the job properly."

Election speculation

Mr Osborne told BBC Radio 4's Today that Mr Eliasch wanted to spend more time concentrating on combating climate change.

Meanwhile the prime minister has told the Daily Telegraph he wants to attract support from non-Labour voters.

Gordon Brown's interview has increased speculation he could call a general election in the autumn.

In Mr Brown's wide-ranging Telegraph interview he said he wanted to attract people not thought of traditionally as Labour supporters.

He said: "I see British politics as us always seeking to unite and to be part of an enlarged centre ground.

"And us reaching out to those who might not be thought of as our supporters or identified with us.

"By showing them that we can meet these challenges we can have a better country and have a more positive view of the future of Britain."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6975536.stm

goldfinger - 29 Jan 2014 20:07 - 36044 of 81564

George Osborne
Mr Osborne has promised to make economic stability the priority

Osborne on spending

A Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said.
He pledged two years of 2% increases.

goldfinger - 29 Jan 2014 20:36 - 36045 of 81564

OSBOURNE......" "The charge from our opponents that we will cut services becomes transparently false."...............ends

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

MaxK - 29 Jan 2014 20:48 - 36046 of 81564

A plague on all their houses!

Haystack - 29 Jan 2014 20:50 - 36047 of 81564

We have economic stability. Osborne is dong a good job.

goldfinger - 29 Jan 2014 20:53 - 36048 of 81564

DONG yes couldnt agree more. Perhaphs it should read DUNG. Keep of the Meths.

Your cheats have been found out Hays.

MaxK - 29 Jan 2014 21:02 - 36049 of 81564

Why is the gov borrowing more money?

Haystack - 29 Jan 2014 21:06 - 36050 of 81564

An interesting consequence of Scotland leaving the UK is they will lose 41 seats in parliament. That will make getting Labour elected much more difficult.

If the Conservatives get a clear majority next time they will put through the constituency boundary changes which was blocked by the Libs in this parliament. That will cost the Conservatives 14 seats, Labour 18 seats and the Libs a huge 18 seats.

MaxK - 29 Jan 2014 21:23 - 36051 of 81564

Who will gain these seats?

goldfinger - 29 Jan 2014 21:24 - 36052 of 81564

Why is the government borrowing more money Hays?.

goldfinger - 29 Jan 2014 21:54 - 36053 of 81564

Come on Hays dont be shy why are the government borrowing more money and obviously incurring % charges on top of this??????

Is this deficit thingy(hows your father) falling or as it decreased or is it rising.

MaxK - 30 Jan 2014 09:53 - 36054 of 81564

Fred1new - 30 Jan 2014 12:29 - 36055 of 81564

The Euro may be a better choice for Scotland.

goldfinger - 30 Jan 2014 12:42 - 36056 of 81564

Osborne on spending

A Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said.
He pledged two years of 2% increases.
goldfinger Send an email to goldfinger View goldfinger's profile - 29 Jan 2014 20:36 - 36047 of 36057 edit this post

OSBOURNE......" "The charge from our opponents that we will cut services becomes transparently false."...............ends

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

doodlebug4 - 30 Jan 2014 12:56 - 36057 of 81564

Imagine if we were seeing pictures on TV of some foreign country that was drowning, instead of Somerset, our Government would have sent a few £billions in aid by now.

goldfinger - 30 Jan 2014 13:04 - 36058 of 81564

Spot on DB. What about all this money in foreign aid to pakistans education which is syphoned away corruptly.

Time we got our prioritys right.

Plus plenty of poorer people in these Somerset villages we should be saving.

Not all are rich farmers etc etc.

Will they be able to afford insurance in future!!!!!!!!

2517GEORGE - 30 Jan 2014 13:10 - 36059 of 81564

Will they be able to get insurance?
2517

cynic - 30 Jan 2014 13:16 - 36060 of 81564

come on guys .... surely you're sophisticated enough to know that foreign aid isn't just a hand-out .... at the very least, it has uk long term interests attaching, either overtly or more subtly

goldfinger - 30 Jan 2014 13:53 - 36061 of 81564

You mean it used to have.

cynic - 30 Jan 2014 13:54 - 36062 of 81564

nothing has changed in that respect ..... in fact, i'm quite surprised that you aren't saying that 0.7% of GDP (i think that's the amount) isn't a bit stingy
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