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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 26 Jun 2016 20:08 - 3628 of 12628

You can put that up as many times as you like its not going to make
one iota of difference..

Most of those signing the petition are not eligible to vote in the UK.

MaxK - 26 Jun 2016 20:15 - 3629 of 12628

Your petition Fred, isn't worth bum paper!




Petition for second EU referendum may have been manipulated


Data shows people from countries including Iceland and Tunisia backed petition that should be signed only by Britons and UK residents


Nicola Slawson


@nicola_slawson

Sunday 26 June 2016 14.18 BST



A petition calling for a second EU referendum which has gained more than 3 million signatures is under investigation by parliamentary authorities.

The House of Commons petitions committee has confirmed that 77,000 signatures, which were added fraudulently, have been removed. A tweet by the committee said that it would continue to monitor the petition for suspicious activity.

The request for another referendum on the parliament’s official petitions website should have been signed only by British citizens and UK residents.

However, the petition’s data showed signatories from countries around the world, including Iceland, the Cayman Islands and Tunisia, and in some cases there are more signatures than total population.


Despite Vatican City, a tiny city state, having a total population of just 800, over 39,000 residents of Vatican City appeared to have signed the petition.

Helen Jones, the chair of the petitions committee, said that those signatures discovered to be fake would be “removed” and said such fraud “undermines the process of parliamentary democracy”.

She said: “The Government Digital Service are taking action to investigate and, where necessary, remove fraudulent signatures. People adding fraudulent signatures to this petition should know that they undermine the cause they pretend to support.

“It is clear that this petition is very important to a substantial number of people. The petitions committee will be considering the petition at its meeting next week, and will decide whether or not to schedule a debate on it.”



More:http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/petition-for-second-eu-referendum-may-have-been-manipulated

Fred1new - 26 Jun 2016 20:17 - 3630 of 12628

Most of those signing the petition are not eligible to vote in the UK.


On what evidence do you base your statement on?

Perhaps the same as the fictitious £350,000,000

grannyboy - 26 Jun 2016 20:18 - 3631 of 12628

Its the whole attitude of the pro-eu briggade, trying to take the LEAVERS
as fools..

Fred1new - 26 Jun 2016 20:19 - 3632 of 12628

Doesn't take much effort!

2517GEORGE - 26 Jun 2016 20:20 - 3633 of 12628

Boy somebody is angry.
2517

MaxK - 26 Jun 2016 20:21 - 3634 of 12628

what bit don't you understand Fred?



However, the petition’s data showed signatories from countries around the world, including Iceland, the Cayman Islands and Tunisia, and in some cases there are more signatures than total population.

dreamcatcher - 26 Jun 2016 20:23 - 3635 of 12628

Just wonder how an MP that voted in can work with other MP's that voted out ? For eg the blonde haired woman on the earlier question time (her name escapes me ) said she could not answer a question on the positives of future students now, as she voted in. If comments like this are going to arise should these MP's resign? It is almost like the previous Conservative/Liberal alliance. This is of great concern to me.

MaxK - 26 Jun 2016 20:33 - 3636 of 12628

3M+ ‘Remain’ Petition Uses ‘Script’ To ‘Fake’ Signatures: 25,000 From North Korea, 2,800 From Uninhabitable Antarctic



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/26/questions-raised-3m-remain-petition-activists-encourage-foreign-signatories/

Haystack - 26 Jun 2016 21:06 - 3637 of 12628

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407

Second EU referendum petition investigated for fraud

MaxK - 26 Jun 2016 21:19 - 3638 of 12628

This is well worth reading, damn's the lot of em!



https://moneymatterstoo.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/brexit-30-years-in-the-making/

grannyboy - 26 Jun 2016 21:26 - 3639 of 12628

dreamcatcher they call her Anna Soubrey(see my post 3625), and she's a total bitch,
and once there is a new leader(Tory) in place she should be the first
to be removed in any cabinet reshuffle.

Haystack - 26 Jun 2016 21:26 - 3640 of 12628

Chris Bryant has resigned. That makes twelve.

cynic - 26 Jun 2016 21:31 - 3641 of 12628

i don't care if 15m people legitimately signed this very silly petition ..... there cannot be a 2nd referendum and that is the end of the story

however, whether or not there is ultimately a clearcut divorce from eu is another matter entirely ...... many strange things will come to pass in the next 24 months

Haystack - 26 Jun 2016 21:38 - 3642 of 12628

dreamcatcher - 26 Jun 2016 21:58 - 3643 of 12628

Cheers granny boy.

Haystack - 26 Jun 2016 22:28 - 3644 of 12628

Corbyn is like the Black Knight in the Holy Grail. "Tis but a scratch", as his arm is chopped off".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690&list=RDdhRUe-gz690#t=0

iturama - 27 Jun 2016 07:27 - 3645 of 12628

As predicted.
German manufacturers last night demanded that Britain be allowed to continue trading with the EU without any barriers.
The car-making industry said punishing Britain makes no sense – and it called on the German chancellor to give the UK a favourable trade deal.
Eurosceptics have repeatedly argued it is not in the EU’s interests to bring in tariffs as the UK imports more from Europe than it exports, and any weakening of the British economy would also have a ripple effect on Europe.
Matthias Wissmann, of the German Association of the Automotive Industry (VDA), said: ‘Even if many “experts” are competing to paint the worst possible scenario, now is the time for calmness.
Germany sells more cars to Britain than to any other country, with 810,000 exported last year.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 07:27 - 3646 of 12628

Just listened to Osbornes speech, and by my reckoning he will throw his
hat into the Tory leadership...

Fred1new - 27 Jun 2016 07:43 - 3647 of 12628

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