goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
2517GEORGE
- 11 Feb 2014 09:23
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Hadrians Wall is too low.
2517
MaxK
- 11 Feb 2014 09:44
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wasn't workfare a Noo Lab concept?
MaxK
- 11 Feb 2014 09:46
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re: #36389
That's the problem rf, you cant change any of it.
Fred1new
- 11 Feb 2014 09:46
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Fred1new
- 11 Feb 2014 09:49
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MaxK
- 11 Feb 2014 09:52
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Fred1new
- 11 Feb 2014 09:54
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GF.
Here is another beauty for you.
Imagine having her screeching at you all day!
goldfinger
- 11 Feb 2014 10:24
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The gruesome twosome. YUK.
goldfinger
- 11 Feb 2014 10:27
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Right required field..................... that article I promised you yesterday on Tory lies about the recession.
Labour really must refute constant Tory canard that Labour’s profligate spending caused the recession
February 2nd, 2014
Once more in this last week Cameron and Osborne have been at it again saying all Britain’s current troubles come from ‘profligate’ expenditure by the last Labour government. It is a straightforward lie. In Labour’s years in office before the financial crash in 2008 the highest deficit in real terms was 3.3% of GDP in 2004-5. If this is supposed to be a mark of ‘profligate expenditure’, why on earth doesn’t Labour point out every time this is raised that by that measure Tory governments have been much more profligate than the Labour government ever was. During the Thatcher/Major Tory years the deficit actually exceeded 3.3% of GDP in 10 out of those 18 years! If this is the measure of economic competence, then Labour comes out incomparably better than the Tories. Moreover, whilst Thatcher/Major ran deficits in 16 years out of their 18 and produced minor surpluses in only 2 years, Blair/Brown produced 4 years of surpluses. Nor are these facts just an academic matter. The Tory lies, ignoring these facts, are part of a relentless propaganda campaign to persuade the electorate that Labour wrecked the economy and is therefore ultimately responsible for all the austerity being imposed on the British people. It is not too much to say that if this enormous canard isn’t forcefully refuted, Labour could lose the election on a lie.
So if Labour didn’t wreck the economy, what did? It is too readily assumed it was the bankers’ bailout. In fact the buying of stakes in the banks (to the tune of £68bn) did not directly have an impact on the revenue budget and the deficit. What did have a huge impact on these was the dramatic drop in public tax revenues which was a direct result of the global financial crash and the consequent recession. In the 5-6 years leading up to 2007-8 there was a remarkably consistent straight line trend in public revenues of about 6% a year, i.e. real growth plus inflation. That public income in 2007-8 was £549bn. Based on this trend, any reasonable forecast would have predicted further increases in income in the next 2 years, leading to a predicted income of about £620bn in 2009-10. But as a direct result of the global financial crash and the consequent recession, actual public income was only £512bn in 2009-10.
That massive loss of public tax revenues of around £110bn was the key cause of the deficit, not excessive expenditure. The Tory sound-bites about ‘profligate expenditure’ before the crash are just fanciful inventions designed to undermine Labour’e economic credibility. A simple examination of the deficit figures each year in the decade to 2007-8 exposes them for what they are – a Goebbels-sized lie which needs to be stamped on and eradicated by every Labour spokesman, especially Ed Balls.
Haystack
- 11 Feb 2014 10:27
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There is a new Populus poll out today which shows Labour’s lead over the Conservatives being cut to a mere 2%:
Conservative 34% (up 1%)
Labour 36% (no change)
Lib Dem 11% (up 2%)
UKIP 12% (down 3%)
cynic
- 11 Feb 2014 10:27
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well she's a huge improvement on having our resident pedagogue preaching at you all day
goldfinger
- 11 Feb 2014 10:31
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Hays labour only need 38% for an overall majority.
2517GEORGE
- 11 Feb 2014 10:31
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Where did that article come from gf?
2517
aldwickk
- 11 Feb 2014 10:34
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Not as bad as The gruesome twosome , Fred and Stan
cynic
- 11 Feb 2014 10:35
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39% at a pinch, but of course that needs to be reflected across the country
meanwhile, there's nothing to choose between the idiots on either side, and for that reason, i fear a very low turn-out which merely lets in the lunatics of whatever hue
goldfinger
- 11 Feb 2014 10:35
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Hays trying to CON us all. his poll wasnt out today it was out yesterday in fact 19 hours ago to be precise. Naughty naughty hays.
Heres the latest poll.........
electionista @electionista
UK - YouGov/Sun poll:
CON 33%
LAB 39%
LDEM 10%
UKIP 12%
goldfinger
- 11 Feb 2014 10:37
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GEORGE .......... Michael Meacher.
doodlebug4
- 11 Feb 2014 10:41
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It's very easy to fill in this form online for anyone interested.
The Mail has launched a petition giving people the chance to press the Government to use part of our massive foreign aid budget to help the thousands of British families whose lives have been made a misery by the floods.
Just fill in this form and send it to us. We’ll pass it on to the Prime Minister’s office.
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Alternatively you can click HERE to print a copy and send it to the Daily Mail by post.
Dear Prime Minister,
I strongly urge you to divert some of the £11billion
a year spent on overseas aid to ease the suffering of
British flood victims, and to build and maintain flood
defences to prevent a repetition of this crisis.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556043/Sign-petition-calling-Government-divert-foreign-aid-flood-hit-British-families.html#ixzz2t0bnISz7
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doodlebug4
- 11 Feb 2014 10:48
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2556412/Breathtaking-incompetence-DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-says-people-run-Britain-never-touch-flood-debacle.html#socialLinks