Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldwickk what about these 2 aircraft carriers that we own but sadly dont have any aircraft on them.

Make them into banana boats???.

Mind its not the Caribbean where they would be sailing to.

Wheres the nearest water to Rumania and Bulgaria??

"And time Camoron got a grip with her."


Preferably around her throat.

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Ted Heath is not dead.

He has been reincarnated as Wavy Davy Cameron.

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Perhaps, if we didn't have the aircraft hangars, the trains would run on time.

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Andrew Mitchell, apparently from Times that story is not over yet.

Typical modern day tory plonker.

Andrew Mitchell: Downing Street police 'complained minister repeatedly broke rules by cycling through main gates before Plebgate incident'
Feb 13, 2014 01:18 By Sam Adams

The information was allegedly revealed in a leaked email written by a constable the day before Mitchell's infamous confrontation with police guarding the gate

PAMitchell: Said he cycled through main gates "on many occasions"
Police officers guarding Downing Street complained former chief whip Andrew Mitchell repeatedly broke the rules by cycling through the main gates before Plebgate incident, it has been claimed.

The information was allegedly revealed in a leaked email written the day before Mitchell's infamous confrontation with police guarding the gate - by a constable seeking advice from his superiors on how to handle his demands.

The officer was said to have complained that Mitchell "keeps requesting to leave Downing Street via the main vehicle gates" and was "adamant he WAS GOING THROUGH THOSE GATES".

Mitchell was forced to resign last year after it was reported that he had repeatedly sworn at officers and called them "plebs" after they insisted he wheeled his bicycle through a side gate - a claim he has always denied.

Evidence subsequently emerged casting doubt on the police version and last week a serving officer was jailed for fabricating an account of the incident.

The email obtained by The Times, dated September 19, potentially casts new light on the incident, suggesting that Mr Mitchell had had previous disagreements with officers over the issue.

The author is said to have written: "It has been 'brought to my attention' that a certain cyclist who is now the Government Chief Whip, Andrew Mitchell, keeps requesting to leave the front of Downing Street via the main vehicle gates.

"When he was initially denied this, he went on to say 'I am the Government Chief Whip and I will be leaving via these gates. I have been in and out of these gates three times today and I will be leaving this way, thank you'."

The officer said that "as it was quite late and quiet" and "in order not to create embarrassment" to himself or the Diplomatic Protection Group, Mitchell had on that occasion been allowed to leave through one of the main gates.

The officer went on to request advice from people "of much higher rank or standing", adding: "Do we stand our ground (but have the backing of yourself if something comes of it in the future... or do we allow him (only) to use the main gates for his arrivals and departures at all times?"



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/andrew-mitchell-downing-street-police-3140137#ixzz2tDQneigf
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On a more serious note and thanks to a poster on another bulletin board for this exerpt from an article in the FT today:

"You'd be forgiven if you'd missed it, but Congress has suspended the US debt ceiling until next year.

Perhaps it was the impending snow storm that pushed the House of Representatives and then the Senate to quickly pass a bill on Wednesday afternoon that had caused angst and drama when the self-imposed borrowing cap was last suspended in October.

More likely, it was the dawning among Republicans that October's scrap did them no favours in the polls and there are elections in November.


Any euphoria should also be tempered by the fact that the ceiling is only suspended until March, 2015. November's elections could deliver a Congress that is even more sharply divided over how to improve the longer-term outlook for America's debt.

For now, though, a little celebration is due."

DLT

The jury of eight women and four men had been deliberating for around 20 hours after a trial at which the former Top Of The Pops presenter was accused of indecently assaulting 10 women and sexually assaulting another in alleged incidents dating back to 1976 when he was at the height of his fame.

There will be a further hearing at the same court on February 24 to decide if there should be a retrial of the two outstanding charges.

8 women and 4 men , a bit onesided

If it was so one sided, wouldn't he have been found guilty - but you have a point aldwickk, in cases of this type surely it would be better to have a 50/50 jury.

What did they use for evidence?

How did they even find these women after such a long time?


Who started the whole shebang going, and why?

One made a complaint, which was publicised. Then more came along etc. The offences date back almost 40 years. There was no real evidence. It was a case where the police hoped to show a pattern of behaviour. One claims to have told parents and friends at the time. Apparently , her parents told her not to make a complaint. I think that is one of two that the CPS may retry.

Well, DLT now has money problems according to one report.

What does a four week trial cost these days...£millions?


He's buggered whatever way is goes.

I hope not.

Told it can be painful!

300,000 more patients on NHS waiting list under coalition

NHS data shows that 2.88 million people in England were waiting for consultant-led treatment in December


Denis Campbell, health correspondent


The Guardian, Thursday 13 February 2014 19.42 GMT



The number of people waiting for NHS hospital treatment has risen by more than 300,000 under the coalition, amid concern that NHS rationing is forcing patients to wait longer for operations.

NHS data shows that 2.88 million people in England were waiting for consultant-led treatment in December 2013, up by 310,000 or 12% on May 2010.

"It's worrying that the number of extra people waiting is that high. That 310,000 is a huge number of people who are waiting for what is quite often life-changing surgery," said Katherine Murphy, chief executive of the Patients Association.

Patients were facing delays before having a cataract removal, hip or knee replacement or other operation, she said. "Waiting lists are growing because of NHS rationing and because of financial pressures and the NHS's efficiency drive."




http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/13/patients-nhs-waiting-list-coalition

Big Dave, I think we have a problem.....beep!




Blow for David Cameron as Ukip finish second in Wythenshawe

UK Independence Party push the Conservatives into third place in the Wythenshawe by-election, dealing a blow to David Cameron



By Matthew Holehouse, Political Correspondent

7:06AM GMT 14 Feb 2014



The UK Independence Party have dealt a blow to David Cameron by pushing the Conservatives into third place in the Wythenshawe by-election, as Labour hold the safe seat.


Mike Kane is Westminster's newest MP after taking 55 per cent of the vote in the Wythenshaw and Sale East by-election, triggered by the death of Paul Goggins.


Ukip pushed the Conservatives into third place, taking 4,301 votes.


Rev Daniel Critchlow, for the Tories, came third on 3,479 votes, and Lib Dem Mary Di Mauro, came fourth on 1,176.


In his victory speech, Mr Kane, who runs the David Miliband campaign Movement for Change, said voters had "sent a very clear message" to the Government.



Full results: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10637794/Blow-for-David-Cameron-as-Ukip-finish-second-in-Wythenshawe.html

Hays Hays Hays Hays

You were thrashed .....in fact trashed.....................

14 February 2014 Last updated at 07:41

Wythenshawe and Sale East by-election: Labour wins

Michael Kane paid tribute to Paul Goggins in his speech
Labour has held on to its seat in the Wythenshawe and Sale East by-election with a comfortable majority while UKIP beat the Tories to second place.

Michael Kane won with 13,261 votes, beating UKIP's John Bickley, with 4,301, in second.

Rev Daniel Critchlow, for the Tories, came third on 3,479 votes, and Lib Dem Mary Di Mauro, came fourth on 1,176.

The by-election was triggered by the death of Labour's Paul Goggins, who had represented constituents since 1997.

Analysts had been closely monitoring the performance of UKIP, which has come second in several by-elections in recent months, for clues to its national level of support ahead of the European Parliament elections in May.

'NHS unsafe'
Mr Kane said: "The people of Wythenshawe and Sale East have sent a very clear message they want a government to stand up for us all - a one-nation Labour government.

"It is a result that demonstrates the people know the NHS is not safe in David Cameron's hands and we have had enough of this utterly out-of-touch government."

He also paid tribute to "all those affected by storms, flooding and dreadful weather".

The Liberal Democrats lost their deposit, as their share of the vote tumbled by 17 per cent to below the crucial 5 per cent level.

Turnout was 28.2% compared with 54.3% in 2010.

It is normal for lower turnout levels at by-elections.

Other candidates were the Green Party's Nigel Woodcock, with 748 votes, the British National Party's Eddy O'Sullivan, with 708, and Capt Chaplington-Smythe, of the Monster Raving Loony Party, with 288.

UKIP beating Tories to second place.

This will be a recurring feature during next years general election.

Hays you should see the silly grin I have on my face.

ABG been going like the clappers over last few days.

I note quite a few Yank analysts are saying move into gold stocks.

Just wonder if it is sustainable.

he he nice one Max.

I think wee-eck samlon must be a tory gf, he's making some huge mistakes and a complete asshole of himself

Cast iron Dave goes round the u-bend again, and this time he cant use the lib/dims as a bomb shelter.



Exclusive: Tories ditch pledge to let voters sack their MP





Lib Dem president slams ‘self-preservation’ after Coalition plan is dropped


Oliver Wright Author Biography


Thursday 13 February 2014


David Cameron has walked away from a pledge to allow voters to expel MPs who have lost the confidence of their electorate from Parliament, The Independent has learnt. The Prime Minister had previously backed the move to let voters “recall” MPs who had been sent to prison or found guilty of “serious wrongdoing” by their colleagues.

The policy was first proposed after the expenses scandal. It was in the Conservative manifesto and formed part of the Coalition Agreement with the Liberal Democrats.

But Mr Cameron and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, have refused to include the legislation needed for it to become law in the last Queen’s Speech before the election – in effect killing the policy.

Senior government sources told The Independent that the plans had come before the quad of senior Liberal Democrat and Tory ministers. But despite efforts by Nick Clegg to get the measure included in the final legislative session before next year’s general election, the proposal was vetoed by the Conservatives. Mr Clegg is understood to have told his MPs about the decision on Tuesday. Under the plans – which had already been watered down – MPs could face a “recall” motion if they had been sentenced to a prison term or judged guilty of “serious wrongdoing” by the Commons Standards and Privileges Committee.



More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-tories-ditch-pledge-to-let-voters-sack-their-mp-9127146.html

The real point about UKIP was that they never stood a chance of winning the by election any more than the Conservatives did as it was a safe Labour seat.

UKIP got just 11% of the vote. At that level they will not get any seats.