Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

dreamcatcher - 16 Feb 2014 18:30 - 36705 of 36709 edit this post

Fred you are a raz pe fin vye granmoun. :-))


= A boring old fart. :-))

The vote for Scotland to join the EU has to be unanimous. Any country can use its veto and that includes the UK.

As I'm having a rant I might as well include "the mobile phone and coffee spill drinker"......what is this ?.....buy a one litre plastic jar of coffee (it's got to be big).., make sure the lid's not on properly.... check all emails at rushhour time in heavy pedestrian traffic and walk fullpace in a straight line : now the game is to bump into as many people as possible and get to the office or underground train with nothing left in the cup, but on the way we will have had more fun than on the dodgems at the fairground and drenched quite a few people on the way......and we musn't forget the already planned apologies "oh..sorry...I didn't see you".....no....you were blinkin' checkin texts and emails....I think we ought to introduce inspectors armed with remote paving stone rise devices just for this urban menace !.....(rant over)....

Anybody having trouble logging into their Barclays brokers account ?

Dreams,

Your are looking in the mirror again,

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Haze,

If Scotland applied, I don't think England would be stupid enough to block them from joining the EU.

Besides if Cameron was in "power" and after his failed "renegotiation with the EU" and he held "his" "referendum"," which he "would" have to hold, (unless of course he is a bigger liar than I think he is), England will have opted out of the EU and have no authority with the acceptance or not of Scotland. (If you believe the fascist right wing of your party,)

I don't think Miliband would be so stupid as to wish to withdraw from the EU and it would be economical folly to try to stop Scotland from joining.

Trying to block Scotland's entrance to the EU would be a spiteful reaction which one could expect from the little boys of the torrid party, but I would think Miliband would be above such and action and would prefer a Scottish economic ally.

We will see.

But Cameron is getting his knickers in a twist again.

But as he said he is one of the Greenest Prime Ministers ever and Money is NO OBJECT, while he disconnects more and more from the West Country, the North and Scotland.

I thought Cameron said months ago that he wasn't going to get involved in the debate about Scotland becoming independent and I thought at the time it was a very sensible comment. Let them get on with it, he is in a no-win situation no matter which line of arguement he takes, just give that idiot Salmond enough rope and he will surely hang himself eventually,hopefully.

Cameron has already put his big feet in the argument, and he can duck and dive, but he can't hide, while wee Alex is looking for him.

North of the Border the hunt is out for him.

I suspect someone with a bit of savvy told Cameroon to keep his plummy clock well away from the Scootland thingy.

His voice and demeanour alone might have tilted the scales in favour of a yes vote.


In the meantime, we have Wee Eck Samlon hooting and screaming for independence, whilst straining at the leash to tie the scots up to an even bigger tyranny.


I hope the jocks have more sense than to listen to tossers like Samlon.

It is very unlikely that any breakaway state would be allowed into the EU. The Spanish have their own reasons and other countries would think it sets a bad and dangerous precedent.

Haze,

Perhaps the Spanish will not be as cynical as you appear/

Or, perhaps the Spanish central government may address the reasons for Catalan and Basques who wish to separate, rather than trying to subjugate them.

Spain has already blocked Kosovo's accession to the EU on the grounds that it would encourage separatism in its Catalonia or Basque regions.

Pound up against Euro, Dollar,...gold up....crude up....(perhaps because pound against dollar up)....some nice rises here and there...

Nick Clegg hints at Lib/Lab pact with first demand in future coalition talks






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Sunday 16 February 2014

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nick-clegg-hints-at-liblab-pact-with-first-demand-in-future-coalition-talks-9132351.html


Nick Clegg has set out the first demand that the Liberal Democrats would make if they were asked by Ed Miliband to form a coalition government with Labour: “Don’t break the bank.”




His words are likely to annoy the shadow Chancellor, Ed Balls, who would challenge any suggestion that government finances would be unsafe in his hands. They will please Labour MPs and many grass-roots Liberal Democrat activists, however, showing that the Deputy Prime Minister is making public overtures to Labour, while accusing the Conservatives of having changed “dramatically” – for the worse.

In an interview with The Independent’s political commentator, Steve Richards, to be broadcast on Monday night on BBC Radio 4, Mr Clegg said: “There is just no doubt in my mind that if there were a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition, we the Liberal Democrats would absolutely insist that government would not break the bank.”


He implied that the Labour Party now looks more like a potential party of government than it did three years ago. He said: “I think they’ve changed. I think there’s nothing like the prospect of reality in an election to get politicians to think again and the Labour Party, which is a party unused to sharing power with others is realising that it might have to.”

Mr Clegg also suggested that the Liberal Democrats are finding the Conservatives increasingly hard to deal with. He claimed: “The Conservative Party has changed quite dramatically since we entered into coalition with them. They’ve become much more ideological, they’ve returned much more to a lot of their familiar theme tunes.

“I think it would be best for everybody if the Conservative Party were to rediscover a talent for actually talking to mainstream voters about mainstream concerns.”

The Liberal Democrats have suffered a run of disastrous opinion poll findings, and their candidate in last week’s Wythenshawe by election lost her deposit, which suggests they will lose seats in next year’s general election. But they have a track record of holding on in places where they have a strong presence, as they demonstrated when they won to Eastleigh by-election after Chris Huhne resigned.

Turn off your iPad, David Cameron, and start dealing with Britain's debt
The Prime Minister David Cameron talks about fiscal sanity but is borrowing like a drunken Keynesian.

Inactive: for all David Cameron's talk about cutting debt, state spending has barely changed since Gordon Brown's peak rate - Turn off your iPad, David Cameron, and start dealing with our debt

By Fraser Nelson8:14PM BST 17 May 2012

No one dispenses advice to the eurozone better than David Cameron. His speech yesterday was a fountain of good sense and hard truth. Quite rightly, he said there’s no point in any uncompetitive, debt-addicted country thinking it can just muddle along. Radical, structural reform is needed. He didn’t say which of the many basket-case European economies he had in mind, but one sticks out. It is increasing its debt faster than anywhere else in Europe. It languishes behind even Pakistan and Nicaragua on the global regulation league tables. Its growth prospects have almost evaporated.
How do you solve a problem like the United Kingdom? Two years in, and Mr Cameron seems no nearer to a solution. He is ambitious over welfare and schools, but on the economy he seems trapped inside a failed Brownite consensus. The Prime Minister does know what should be done, as we heard yesterday: radical reform, and accepting that you can’t (as he puts it) “borrow your way out of a debt crisis”. But his government is attempting to do precisely that, borrowing more over five years than Labour did over 13.

Fairly soon, Mr Cameron will be fully aware of these depressing metrics. He has ordered a special app on his iPad that will give him a “management dashboard”, with everything from dole figures to inflation. (One of his senior advisers says the PM spends “a crazy, scary amount of time playing Fruit Ninja on his iPad”, so the new software will offer some respite.) It will be a digital horror show. His government is “dealing with the debt” in the same way that George Best dealt with the drink: bingeing on it. Ours has increased more than any eurozone member’s. And still, as his iPad will soon tell him, the government envisages no economic improvement to speak of by 2015. Britain’s deficit won’t be abolished. It will still be there – indeed, it will be the largest in the Western world.
The Institute of Directors has done more than just provide a stage for the Prime Minister’s speech yesterday. Next week, with the Taxpayers’ Alliance, it will publish a compendium of radical solutions to get the economy moving, almost all of which he will likely consider beyond the pale. The report of its 2020 Tax Commission (of which I am a member) is intended to be the most comprehensive guide to supply-side economic reform published in Britain in a generation. It highlights the many options open to George Osborne to replace the losing formula of tax rises and slow-mo austerity.
Tinkering won’t be enough. It’s not much use trying to simplify taxes, for example, when the system itself is beyond redemption. Rules on inheritance tax alone would take the world’s fastest speaker 10 hours to read. The time has come to start abolishing taxes wholesale, as Nigel Lawson used to do with every Budget. The entire tax system needs to be replaced with something coherent. Trying to incubate “green technology” jobs may well keep ministers busy, but will make no noticeable difference to the economy. British government spending is about half of economic output. Study after study shows the optimal size of government is closer to a third. This should be the aim.

The Treasury is locked in the old way of thinking about growth: it assumes that everyone will just carry on as before, but pay more tax. Take the North Sea oil raid in last year’s Budget, which the Treasury claimed was cunning enough not to impact on any activity at all. Exploration projects collapsed by half last year, production by a fifth. Meanwhile, the Institute for Economic Affairs calculates that the VAT increase has cost about a quarter of a million jobs, and dealt such a hammer blow to growth that it ended up actually increasing the deficit – the opposite of the intended effect.
If Britain’s state spending were cut back to 2004 levels – hardly the Dark Ages – studies suggest our economy would be able to grow at twice today’s speed. William Hague recently suggested that the only growth strategy is for people to “work hard”. It’s not quite so simple. Ministers need to create a stronger incentive for people to work hard, cutting taxes and letting them keep more of the money they earn. None of this is hard to grasp, none of it is outlandish. The moral and economic case for limited government is firmly grasped in the roaring Asian economies. But none of this is obvious to HM Treasury: it is still risk-averse, still mistrustful, still hardwired with assumptions that Gordon Brown programmed in over 10 years.
For all the talk of cuts, state spending has come down just 0.9 per cent from Brown’s peak. The British strategy has been not so much sado-austerity as thesp-austerity: minimal cuts imposed with maximal dramatics. Mr Cameron is giving the best speeches on fiscal sanity on the world stage at the moment, while his ministers are borrowing like drunken Keynesians. The Prime Minister is not trying to “dupe the bond markets”, as one City firm suggested this week. The gap between what he’s saying and what he’s doing is better explained by the gap between what he knows he needs to do and what he feels able to enact.
For those around Mr Cameron, this gap is deeply frustrating – and illustrated by one dramatic incident a few weeks ago. As Benedict Brogan revealed yesterday, a small group inside No 10 had drawn up proposals for an immediate cut in corporation tax to 15 per cent. This would have been a game-changer – a clear signal that Britain was open for business with the one of the lowest corporation taxes on the planet. The idea was for companies to come flocking back from Ireland, itself sending a signal, and the cost of the tax rise would be funded by welfare cuts (which remain popular).
But the plan was rejected out of hand by the Treasury, and its advocates were given no help at all from Mr Cameron. To those who had believed they were working for a radical Prime Minister, it was a bitter blow. This sense of frustration is shared throughout the Conservative backbenches. Tory MPs fought an election saying that Britain was on the wrong path – yet some feel they’re still plodding along that path, whistling a different tune but with the cliff edge still in sight. The glummer Tories argue that a fresh eurozone blow-up would have its advantages for the Government, as there would be something to blame for the abject lack of economic progress.
Perhaps the most depressing theory circulating in Westminster at present is that “you have to go through Heath to get to Thatcher”. That is to say, tinkering has to be tried, and failed, before the Conservative Party reaches for radicalism. In 1970 Ted Heath spoke brilliantly about the changes needed to save Britain, but felt unable to implement them in office. Mr Cameron is familiar with the unflattering comparisons to Heath. He responds that Lady Thatcher was cautious at first, biding her time before waging war with the unions and saving Britain. If the Prime Minister does have such a card up his sleeve, now might be a good time to play it.

But his government is attempting to do precisely that, borrowing more over five years than Labour did over 13.

Is it just me or have the fonts got bigger on money am?????????????????????????

The print seems very large this morning.

Looks normal to me gf.