Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haven't bothered to read this thread for a while but having skimmed through, a few comments stood out, the most hilarious being Haystack's claim to be capable of rationalised debate. Now that really is funny, on quite a few ocassions Greg you have been proven wrong, but rather than admit to such you deflect the subject on another tangent. Laughable quite frankly, which I guess is why you are treated with such contempt, not your entrenched position on the Israeli subject.

No evidence was taken from Israel, because they refused to cooperate with the report. The authors of the report asked for evidence from Israel. Israel never accepts any criticism for any one, especially when they are wrong.

Now Israel attacks other Jews as well in another illegal ship boarding.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11433836

Israeli forces 'Tasered' activist on Gaza aid boat

Jewish activists who sought to break Israel's naval blockade of Gaza say they were treated harshly when Israeli forces seized their vessel.

Yonatan Shapira, an Israeli air force pilot turned peace activist, said he was shocked with a Taser gun while passively resisting arrest.

And a British journalist said he was "ambushed" and "almost strip-searched" by commandos on board the vessel.

"After they boarded, I was standing with my hands around Reuven Moskowitz, the 82-year-old holocaust survivor," he told BBC News. "We were trying to protect each other and singing: 'We shall overcome.'

"The Israeli navy captain came closer and pulled out his Taser gun and said: 'If you don't let go... it will hurt.'

"We continued to hug and he shot me twice on my right shoulder. It was painful, but not as bad as the third shot.

"He moved the life vest I had on, so he could reach closer to my heart and shot me, which made me lose control of my body. It felt like an epileptic attack or something.

The Irene, dubbed the Jewish Boat for Peace, was carrying what the activists called a symbolic amount of medicine, a water purifying kit and toys.

Wow - 'almost strip searched'. Do you suppose that was stripped and almost searched? Or searched and almost stripped?

Very naughty of the Israeli's to try and search arrestees. Or is it?

Ambushed? What part of his account describes the ambush? From what he describes he was just standing there having a cuddle when he was approached and arrested.

He was warned it would hurt if he didn't surrender peacefully. He didn't surrender. And it hurt. And he whinges about it hurting. Is he nuts?

What a complete load of tosh.

G

Oncd again it was an illegal stoppage of a ship on the high seas. I suppose we are to expect this sort of piracy on a regular basis now from Israel.

Once again another ship full of bleeding heart activists try to take on a military blockade, use passive resistance when caught and complain loudly to the world's eager press that they got manhandled and try to dress it up as a barbaric, savage and unjustified assault. Nutcases, liars, drama queens and losers.

All sailing in international waters and being illegally stopped by Israeli pirates. The illegality was highlighted in the recent report into the previous act of piracy by experts in international law.

Haystack

Try to get it right man.

There are conflicting legal opinions out there, and a balanced individual would see that it is a grey area.

For example, from Reuters: Under the law of a blockade, intercepting a vessel could apply globally so long as a ship is bound for a "belligerent" territory.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65133D20100602?pageNumber=1

The one thing they all agree on is that it is not an act of piracy. Piracy only deals with private conduct, not with state actions. Your use of the word piracy is another attempt to add your personal prejudiced spin.

Don't parrots sit on the shoulders of pirates?

You can see the way hay crapper's twisted mind works.........

The United Nations report is the only extensive study into the actions and circumstances raleting to the stopping of the flotila. reuters may have an opinion on the matter and its advice comes form advisors the the US government. The United Nations report is quite clear that the stoppage of the ships is illegal under internastional law.

The same can be said of an occupying force building settlements in occupied teritory. The list of illegal activities by Israel is a very long list.

zzzzzzzzzz.......................

Good heavens Haystack. Your spelling and grammar are sinking to the standard and clarity of your arguments. I'm afraid you're now failing to meet the minimum requirements for either.

Yip, Piracy, incorrect description of Israeli actions, like to retract that one Haystack, or are you sticking by it?

He isn't the sharpest needle in the haystack.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/09/20109299312478378.html

Israel releases Gaza activists


Jewish protesters who tried to break Gaza blockade on a yacht allege Israeli marines used violence when they boarded.

Last Modified: 29 Sep 2010




Five Israeli activists who attempted to break their country's naval blockade of the Gaza Strip in a boat have been released from police custody, though five others who had been on board the ship are set to be deported.
Yonatan Shapira, a former pilot in the Israeli air force, said after being released on Tuesday that Israeli marines who boarded the yacht Irene were "very brutal".
"They didn't kill us like they killed other Palestinians and Muslims, but they were very brutal. I got shot with a taser shock gun ... and was brutally treated just like my brother Itamar," Shapira, a member of the Combatants for Peace group, told the Reuters news agency.
The Irene was carrying eight Jewish activists - including 82-year-old Holocaust survivor Reuven Moskovitz and captain Glyn Secker - as well as two British journalists. Of the eight, five were Israeli citizens and three were citizens of the US, UK and Germany.
Another passenger was Rami Elhanan, an Israeli whose daughter died in a 1997 suicide bombing at a Jerusalem shopping centre.
Eli Osherov, a reporter from Channel 10 in Israel, was also on board.
The Israeli army said in a statement on Tuesday that Israeli forces boarded the Irene "without incident" and that "no violence of any kind" was used by either side.
Itamar Shapira told Reuters that Israel "must let people live freely, study freely around the world, eat what they want, buy what they want like any other citizen should".
Symbolic aid package
Irene carried a symbolic aid package including children's toys, musical instruments, textbooks, fishing nets, prosthetic limbs and a water purifying kit. Israel has said the cargo will be screened and sent to Gaza.
The Irene, a 10-metre catamaran, is tiny in comparison with the Mavi Marmara, a Turkish-flagged ship that was part of a six-ship aid convoy intercepted by Israel on May 31. Israeli marines raided the Mavi Marmara and killed nine of its passengers: eight Turkish citizens and one Turkish-American.
But the Irene's voyage was a gesture by left-leaning European Jewish groups to highlight what they see as a flawed Israeli policy of collective punishment against 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza.
Yousef Rizka, a Hamas official, said: "The government has received Jewish activists heading to Gaza before. The government positively views all attempts to break the siege on Gaza".
Israel eased its naval blockade following harsh international condemnation for storming the Mavi Marmara. The nine deaths were a public-relations disaster for Israel.
Since then, groups from Iran, Ireland, Lebanon, and Libya, among others, have been trying to reach Gaza - with varying degrees of success.

Hey crapper,
The cargoes get through once they're checked for war material so what's the big deal?
If you're so obsessed and blind why don't you go on a boat YOURSELF and try and break the blockade?
You're just all (foaming) mouth and no action.

PS Would love to see you Tasered.
Perhaps not, the violent shaking and total lack of control is normal for you so no-one could see the difference.

and round and round we go .... had this exchange almost word for word 6/8 weeks ago ..... shan't spoil the excitement by typing hayseed's inevitable response

What sickening awful atrocity must the jackbooted zionist zealot hitlers have to perpertrate before they are condemned bythe UN in the most strongest of terms and exposed for what they are .Namely- guilty of numerous crimes against humanity / breaching international law/ conventions, and legal codes of individual countries, , violating human rights ...ect ect - a list too long to reproduce here . . But this latest political decision when translated into millitary action has only added to the totally unnessary and incessant suffering they have caused the palestine/ arab civilian population - a craft they have perfected over two generations ,and should justice exist , many of their political masters -past and present should be hauled off to Nuremburg ,,,,oops sorry l mean the Hague, and account for their brutal bllodlust ,,,,why dont they juste piss off back to the pre 68 border , and be happy with what the brits gave them in the 40s

I don't think they gave it , didn't they take it by their terror campaign against the British and the Palestinians ?

........yes-that is correct ; the term "gave" is very loosely applied and used in the interest of brevity -but it is not the right word - surrendered would be a better assessment-..But i think following WW2 ,the brits had already decided in principle to create a homeland for displaced jewry in palestine - but a homeland in a part of palestine which was not theirs to surrender was bankrupt of reason and planted the seed of later troubles . lt was an international zone as designated by the mark sykes/ george picot agreement -but more akin tp a protectorate under brit governance and administration ....but as you say after a terrorist campaign led by the likes of begin and the stern gang the brits left both jew and arab alike to get on with it.,,,,,,,,,,,typical ,,,

confess i thought it went back to the france/britain carve up in the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 ..... anyway, all that is history, or we'll start the parallel nonsense again about giving Australia back to the Aborigines or South Africa back to the assorted tribes of yore, or perhaps more pertinent, unravelling the pseudo-nation of Iraq