jasonwalt
- 20 Aug 2004 13:58
Brokers Hargreave Hale gave the following Valuation for HMY
VALUATION
The nearest comparisons to this Group are Sondex, trading on a current year multiple of 14 and Weir Group which typically trades on multiples of 12 plus. We would argue that Hamworthys prospects are brighter than both these companies in view of the strong order book and the global positioning. Fully taxed earnings of 13p this year and 16.5 p for the 2005/6 end March, suggests a current year PE of 9.9x and a prospective PE of 7.8x. There is a prospective yield in excess of 4%. If trading on a similar PER to Sondex the shares would be valued at in excess of 180p. We would argue that a premium to Sondex is justifiable, in particular because of the potential ramp up to sales as a result of the new product pipeline now gaining client acceptance in what is in any event one of the fastest growing markets in the world.
"Shares" Article relating to Hamworthy (HMY) posted below for info.
With a following wind these shares should double over the next year or so.
Some catty folk in the City say the flotation last month by Collins Stewart
could have been handled better, i.e. at a higher price. It was certainly over
subscribed but the rating is half that of similar oil sector service companies
including Sondex.
mickeyskint
- 18 Feb 2005 16:25
- 368 of 915
Nearly jumped ship a while back GF and your posting made me look at my position again and decided to stay in. How right you were. Many thanks for that.
MS
mickeyskint
- 18 Feb 2005 16:55
- 369 of 915
RD
You never know. I think holders of HMY are too strong to fall for that. This is a definite hold for me. If the contracts that will be up for grabs come HMY's way, which I think they will. Then the sp will go much higher. Hold and the good times will be just around the corner.
MS
goldfinger
- 18 Feb 2005 16:58
- 370 of 915
Dito.
cheers GF.
jimwren
- 18 Feb 2005 18:59
- 371 of 915
Having worked in the oil and gas industry for over 20 years I can tell you that big tenders such as these can easily take a year or more before firm orders are placed. The tenders from the shipbuilders can be fairly swift ( 1-2 months) as they will bid based on one of their standard designs. The oil company will then put that to its operations and technical departments to see how the basic design meets their needs. Any changes are fed back to the builders for new prices and then the haggling starts. At the end of the day it depends on how much of a hurry people are in. One positive point is that HMY with their track record are probably on the builders list as one of the standard suppliers, although that doesn't mean that you can't ask for something else - it just costs you. All in all I think HMY are very well placed but big orders take time.
mickeyskint
- 18 Feb 2005 21:02
- 372 of 915
There must be something in the wind. The share price hasn't increased for nothing. HMY are probable best placed to get any new contracts as they already have ships with their plant on board and working well.
MS
paulgrip
- 19 Feb 2005 01:02
- 373 of 915
jimwren...I dont think they will take that long...these deals have already been in the making for months if not years, and the owners bidding for the tenders are the same as the last tranche, so most things should already be in place. As for the designs on the ships they should be much the same as the last 8 contracted ships, so there shouldnt be too much to re-negotiate, and ultimately they need to have these ships on the water around 2008, so they dont have too much time to hang around...I do however agree with you in that HMY are well placed. IMHO
jimwren
- 19 Feb 2005 09:55
- 374 of 915
paulgrip - you may be right, it is difficult to know how far the detailed planning has gone. if the ships can be of the same design, all well and good but sometimes specific projects have specific needs. I am very positive about HMY - right company in the right place at the right time. As an aside there was a piece in the IC about British Gas - they commented that they are looking to almost double their imports of LNG over the next few years. More opportunities for HMY. Don't forget also that these reliquifaction plants are also used ashore as well as on ships.
mickeyskint
- 19 Feb 2005 12:19
- 375 of 915
Didn't know about the use of reliquifaction plants on shore. It just gets better for HMY.
LOL
MS
jimwren
- 19 Feb 2005 14:55
- 376 of 915
don't want to bore you with technical stuff but its the onshore plants that were the big thing. until recently, when HMY developed their ship based units the gas was liquified ashore for storage and pumping on the vessel. because of its very low temp (-160C) it was very difficult for the ship to cope with the "boil off" which tended to be burnt as fuel. This is a waste and HMY's gear will surely change this - the economics are overwhelming. Add in the fact that the next ten years will see plenty of new gas fields coming on line and we are on a roll!
goldfinger
- 20 Feb 2005 23:29
- 377 of 915
Interesting reading Jim, please keep it up. Going add in the morning, looks very hot on all the B/Bs.
cheers GF.
HUSTLER
- 21 Feb 2005 09:46
- 378 of 915
hi gf
been in this one for a while
like the look of it - the posts - stats - and price movement
increased position this morning
hoping for more as we all are i am sure it will happen
regards HUSTLER
goldfinger
- 21 Feb 2005 11:49
- 379 of 915
Added again myself hustler. The company could be on the brink of something big.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 22 Feb 2005 00:16
- 380 of 915
Hoping for a big day tuesday.
cheers GF.
HUSTLER
- 22 Feb 2005 01:06
- 381 of 915
time on our side patience
move higher looks on the cards IMO
regards HUSTLER
paulgrip
- 22 Feb 2005 15:38
- 382 of 915
Now we are motoring!!
goldfinger
- 22 Feb 2005 15:57
- 383 of 915
Up 3.5p. Good on a bad day.
cheers GF.
mickeyskint
- 22 Feb 2005 15:59
- 384 of 915
A good solid share this one. I can see 3 in the not too distant future.
MS
Pond Life
- 22 Feb 2005 16:56
- 385 of 915
A regular cash machine. Nice steady rises.
goldfinger
- 22 Feb 2005 23:12
- 386 of 915
Yup finished the day off nicely after I had added this morning , NICE.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 23 Feb 2005 10:46
- 387 of 915
Dont sell off, the markets getting a shock taste of reality. There will be a bounce in the US.
cheers GF.