cashcaptain
- 09 May 2007 13:23
ANYONE KNOW WHY THE ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND IS SHOWING A SHARE PRICE AROUND THE 6.59 MARK WHEN IT WAS 18.00 OR SO THE OTHER WEEK OR AM I GOING STRANGE?????????????
scotinvestor
- 18 Apr 2008 00:02
- 37 of 676
expect crash on fri mornng...........this will be biggest news in london and uk.
up to 12 billion rights issue!!!!
and probable divi cut!!!
ouch......
goodwin is finished......at least theres a new job vacancy, maybe a pole could take over and do a better job for a third of the price!
just need to sack HBOS board now and banking sector might turn around.
how can these people sleep at night knowing how irresponsible they have been earning huge salaries and bonuses....its obscene and unethical
poo bear
- 18 Apr 2008 07:04
- 38 of 676
That won't help the sp recovery.
On the other hand, there may never bve a better time to buy than just after open.
mitzy
- 18 Apr 2008 07:16
- 39 of 676
A RI price of 275p on a 1/1 basis would be no problem.
Toya
- 18 Apr 2008 07:36
- 40 of 676
Might be a good shorting opportunity?
Their announcement today confirms that a statement will be made next week: "RBS is expected to announce the fund-raising in a trading statement coinciding with its annual shareholders meeting on Wednesday, according to The Times."
The Royal Bank of Scotland Group plc
18 April 2008
Announcement
The Royal Bank of Scotland Group plc ('RBS') notes recent speculation about a
possible rights issue. RBS confirms that its Interim Management Statement
covering trading performance and capital will be made next week.
dealerdear
- 18 Apr 2008 07:51
- 41 of 676
Not sure the sp will drop by much. IEC's rights issue didn't drop the sp.
Could even be seen as a positive in that they are facing up to their problems and other banks will follow.
What would be unacceptable for Goodwin is if divi is cut. A big no no.
We shall see.
spitfire43
- 18 Apr 2008 08:02
- 42 of 676
I noticed that B&B denied rumours of rights issue last week, but RBS haven't they just say they have noted the speculation. So it looks like it could well be announced next Wednesday. I have RBS on my watch list to buy, and would certainly be interested in a purchase before any rights issue, which I would view as a positive move for the shares. Maybe not in the short term.
The other point to make is that they could use Wednesday trading statement to come clean over come clean about their exposure to instruments related to the sub-prime mortgage crisis.
Interesting week ahead..........
dealerdear
- 18 Apr 2008 08:03
- 43 of 676
Up!
poo bear
- 18 Apr 2008 08:04
- 44 of 676
I'll never understand these markets.
I expected a drop and it goes up!
Maybe I should always trade in reverse to what I originally thought.
I could make a fortune.
(noted dearleader, thanks)
Toya
- 18 Apr 2008 08:06
- 45 of 676
RBS is going up this morning.
However, re the effect of a rights issue on IEC: I think you'll find the sp dropped off a cliff on the day of the rights issue: down 25% or more (have a look at the IEC chart).
dealerdear
- 18 Apr 2008 08:13
- 46 of 676
Sorry to disagree Toya.
Although the sp plummeted recently, the rights issue was announced Wednesday at 600p. The Stock opened at around 1000p and stayed there. It didn't dilute.
greekman
- 18 Apr 2008 08:14
- 47 of 676
It now depends how much the rights issue is for.
Being a sceptic, I feel that RBS were reasonably happy that the potential of the issue had been a rumor for several months. As they did not (unless I missed it) deny the rumor me thinks they will ask for less than the 12 billion mentioned.
Banks have almost as much spin attitude as our government.
Rumor for 12 ask for 10 ish, looks good. The market as yet appears to like it. Doubt has almost been taken away. As we all know, markets don't like doubt.
brianboru
- 18 Apr 2008 08:15
- 48 of 676
With much of its earning other than stirling this looks like a good long term holding once they sort out their capitsal requirements.
spitfire43
- 18 Apr 2008 08:15
- 49 of 676
Good point, I think PAG did also, will have to check. Market likes the idea of rights issue, and would think other banks could follow. Buy sp normally drifts down with rights issues.
hlyeo98
- 18 Apr 2008 08:25
- 50 of 676
The market is starting to realise this is not good news...RBS pulling back now.
Toya
- 18 Apr 2008 08:28
- 51 of 676
Dealerdealer: you're right - I hadn't realise the actual rights issue re IEC was this week (I've been away). But the sp did plummet on 02 April, the day they announced that a rights issue was planned, from over 1250p to around 900p. Thats a fairly hefty drop and it's not got back up there yet.
Guess the market is reacting differently to the RBS announcement.
dealerdear
- 18 Apr 2008 08:32
- 52 of 676
The risk to the divi is the problem here.
dealerdear
- 18 Apr 2008 08:36
- 53 of 676
True. Maybe with the original drop the rights issue had been priced in
poo bear
- 18 Apr 2008 08:40
- 54 of 676
The divi is certainly a problem given the circumstances.
halifax
- 18 Apr 2008 08:43
- 55 of 676
The market appears uncertain how to take this news/rumour, no doubt the weekend press will through more light on the situation. Everything hinges on whether and how much additional provisions have to be made for sub prime losses.
BigTed
- 18 Apr 2008 09:16
- 56 of 676
IEC also announced increased reserves at the same time as confirming the 600p RI, with no RI, the sp would have improved on the news...