goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Chris Carson
- 22 Feb 2014 12:39
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GF - Good for you, good luck. Sticks and stones re cynic though eh! Sense of humour is harmless :O)
aldwickk
- 22 Feb 2014 16:10
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The Truth About food [ fat ] Banks
A mother of two with a fondness for Chinese takeaways and McDonalds has reportedly blamed the benefits system for her weight gain.
Helen Jobson, who has ballooned to 23 stone after existing on a diet made up of Chinese, McDonalds, and kebabs, told today's The Sun her £350 weekly benefits are allowing her to gorge on junk food.
The 44-year-old was forced to give up her two jobs as a barmaid and car four years ago because of "chronic regional pain syndrome" - and has since piled on four stone, according to the newspaper.
"People tell me it's my fault because I'm fat.
"But I don't see it that way. I'm fat because I comfort eat, and the benefits pay for it. If it wasn't for the benefits, I'd be forced to stop the trips to the kebab van.
The more benefits the government pay out to people suffering weight-related health problems, the less incentive they'll have to get back to work."
Around £160 of her benefits goes on takeaways and junk food, after she spends the day sleeping while her 14-year-old daughter is at school.
The newspaper also quotes her as stating she would like a gastric band on the NHS to help her slim down to 15st.
However, she says being on benefits has trapped her in a miserable vicious circle.
"The depression that comes with being on benefits makes me eat more, and receiving handouts has taken away all my self-esteem
Read more: http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Chelmsford-mother-23-stone-blames-benefits-making/story-20683879-detail/story.html#ixzz2u4Fz2JyA
MaxK
- 22 Feb 2014 16:12
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I'm surprised she hasn't sued the DHSS.
cynic
- 22 Feb 2014 16:49
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sticky - i'm still the (not) nice chap i always was, but seemingly have a more balanced view on politics and life than yourself .... i confess i really cannot be bothered to wade through all the verbiage, but i still stand absolutely what i wrote/reported
you are welcome disagree with the bits/comment i attached, but that does not mean that i am wrong ... perhaps you'ld like to go back and actually read what i wrote, which may not be what you would like to think i wrote
Fred1new
- 22 Feb 2014 18:31
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Perhaps, fair comment is only when it applies to you or the leanings are in accord with your own personal evaluations.
But not all the world agrees with you or even with me.
Fred1new
- 22 Feb 2014 19:26
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Manuel.
Perhaps more to your taste.
Fred1new
- 23 Feb 2014 09:53
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MaxK
- 23 Feb 2014 10:10
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Dirty nasty little secrets coming out now.
The 'right’ to sleep with children was one 'civil liberty’ that NCCL supported
The Seventies was an era of sudden sexual emancipation. To some on the Left, sex with children was just another boundary to be swept away
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653944/The-right-to-sleep-with-children-was-one-civil-liberty-that-NCCL-supported.html
MaxK
- 23 Feb 2014 10:13
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Even the graun is onto to it now..
Labour trio can't stay silent on this paedophile claim
Patricia Hewitt, Harriet Harman and Jack Dromey should not be the subject of a witch-hunt over the NCCL and PIE, but tell their version
Barbara Ellen
The Observer, Sunday 23 February 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/23/harriet-harman-patricia-hewitt-pie-nccl-paedophile-claims
cynic
- 23 Feb 2014 11:28
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but they and all their other colleagues are positive angels compared to the party opposite - just ask them!
Fred1new
- 23 Feb 2014 15:08
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Manuel,
Before you indulge yourself have a look the torrid party's past history and even some of its Old Etonian forebears. Also some the indulgences at Eton and many other schools and the age of said "consent".
Also relate it back to Libertine period of the 60s, 70s and 80s up and till the present change is "sexual" habits and the challenges to "sexual" and "social" restraints.
Relate it to some of the fanciful and early schools of psychotherapy of that period and reforms made.
I won't attempts to label one party against another "hedonistic" behaviors are found it in all strata and groups within society.
But of course it appeals to the more salacious papers and the more salacious readers.
But read the following descriptive passages extracted from :
http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/the-dirt-book-how-the-sexual-abuse-of-children-is-used-for-political-gain/
""The Dirt Book: How the sexual abuse of children is used for political gain
In 1995, the BBC showed a Michael Cockerell documentary called Westminster’s Secret Service about the role of the chief whip, whose task it is to ensure MPs attend important debates and vote as the party leadership desires. It was revealed that the chief whip kept a little black ‘dirt book’ which contained information about MPs, and this was used as a method of political control.
Tim Fortescue, who was Ted Heath’s chief whip from 1970-73, said:
For anyone with any sense, who was in trouble, would come to the whips and tell them the truth, and say now, I’m in a jam, can you help? It might be debt, it might be…..erm……erm, a scandal involving small boys, or any kind of scandal in which, erm er, a member seemed likely to be mixed up in, they’d come and ask if we could help and if we could, we did. And we would do everything we can because we would store up brownie points……., and if I mean, that sounds a pretty, pretty nasty reason, but it’s one of the reasons because if we could get a chap out of trouble then, he will do as we ask forever more.
In short, the chief whip would cover up any scandal, even if it involved “small boys”, child sexual abuse, child rape, whatever you want to call it. They wouldn’t report the crime to the police, although they may use their contacts with the police to make sure to make sure the matter went no further. This means that a paedophile would be the ideal candidate for promotion within the party, easily blackmailed and bought, loyalty and discretion guaranteed.
An example of how the dirt book may have been used is the case of Sir Peter Morrison, who was Conservative MP for Chester from 1974-1992, as well as being Margaret Thatcher’s Parliamentary Private Secretary. Morrison has been linked to a notorious paedophile ring that sexually abused children in North Wales care homes. Chris House, who worked as reporter for the Daily Mirror, twice received tip-offs about Morrison being caught abusing underage boys which resulted in just a police caution, but libel threats stopped the newspaper from running the story. Peter Connew, the former editor of the Sunday Mirror, said “such was the hush-up that nobody could get hold of a log of the arrest”.
Edwina Currie, who was a Conservative MP at the time, said “Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS. Now he’s what they call ‘a noted pederast’,’ with a liking for young boys; he admitted as much to Norman Tebbitt when he became deputy chairman of the party, but added, ‘However, I’m very discreet’ – and he must be!”""
Max,
Before chucking the mud around and insinuating "tis or tat" have a look at some of the Membership and associates (past, present and reported) of the UKIP party. Many think it membership is akin to the affiliates of the "Loonie Party".
Fred1new
- 23 Feb 2014 15:56
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I wonder if Cameron will be arrested as a terrorist when he crosses the Scottish border tomorrow, or will he go on ducking and weaving in the heather.
He should watch out for bad weather!
MaxK
- 23 Feb 2014 19:01
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Fred.
I don't doubt ukip have their share of wrong-uns. Just as do the cons, noo lab and the ever so cuddly dim/libs (remember Cyril smith?)
I am looking to ukip to break up the cosy arrangement between the three main parties whereby we will never get meaningfull change, especially on €urope.
To date:
Cameroon has promised a referendum. ... it wont happen, he is lying!
Millibandus has promised nothing. ... and that is probably what we would get out of him.
Cleggy has promised more €U ..... You can see the problem.
Whats left?
doodlebug4
- 23 Feb 2014 19:03
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Raving looney party, at least you get what it says on the tin.
MaxK
- 23 Feb 2014 19:06
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required field
- 23 Feb 2014 20:02
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What on earth is the point of a EU referendum for Britain ?......
MaxK
- 23 Feb 2014 20:12
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To allow people the choice (in or out)
what else?
required field
- 23 Feb 2014 20:44
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Ridiculous....we trade with our partners in the common market...it's the blinkin' Maastricht treaty with free circulation within the common market we should never ever have signed up to....there should be a crack-down on immigration within the EU....
MaxK
- 23 Feb 2014 20:58
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But they wont, cos they have different rules.
And now theres only one way out...all the way.
Then we can go back to trading on a rational basis.
required field
- 23 Feb 2014 21:01
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Crazy...that's what I call it...do they know what they are doing in the corridors of power in England and Scotland ?....I'm having doubts...