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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:09 - 3711 of 12628

Terrified? The Tories want him to stay. As far as they are concerned, he is the gift that keeps on giving.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:14 - 3712 of 12628

Haystack (3708), Well if that comes about, and there is no stitch up on
the main reason of the Brexit vote, ie free movement then that'l be
a positive....

Otherwise UKIP is on standby.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:18 - 3713 of 12628

There will be a stitch up. We will have some form of free movement. UKIP will be able to do nothing. There won't be another election until way after new trade deals are signed. What can they do?

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:24 - 3714 of 12628

Resignation #26: Luciana Berger

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:25 - 3715 of 12628

Only 2 undecided plus deputy Watson.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:26 - 3716 of 12628

Haystack (3694)
"UKIP can call for another referendum but it will be in vain"

And all the other shit you put in that post..

Why would UKIP want another referendum?. If there was a General Election
and the voters, who voted to LEAVE the EU, saw that there had been a stitch up
between the main parties, especially on the immigration/free movement,
then UKIP would be the winner...


grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:28 - 3717 of 12628

Haystack (3713) Rubbish there will have to be an election to give the
new prime minister the mandate to go forward, so there will be a GE
around November..

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:33 - 3718 of 12628

Of course they won't. There were 48% who voted IN, they won't vote UKIP. There was 2/3 of the Labour party who voted IN. The Libs voted IN almost entirely. It would be pointless to vote UKIP. What could they do with a few extra MPs. It would be a wasted vote. I voted OUT, but would not vote UKIP under any circumstances. I would vote Labour before UKIP and that is the view of millions. UKIP got about as many votes last time as they are ever going to get.

iturama - 27 Jun 2016 14:36 - 3719 of 12628

It is not so easy to call for a new election these days, since the introduction of the 5 year fixed term. If Labour are against, and why should they given the mess they are in, it will not happen.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:36 - 3720 of 12628

There will be no election before triggering Article 50 and probably not before we are actually out of the EU. Brown didn't call an election when he took over from Blair and his position was worse as he just got the job without an internal election. Any new PM would be crazy to have a GE in a time of instability. I expect the GE to be in 2020.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:37 - 3721 of 12628

It does not matter, those who voted to LEAVE would vote for UKIP if
they saw that they were being taken for fools by the main parties
colluding with each other....YOU WILL SEE!!

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:37 - 3722 of 12628

Labour can't afford a GE, their coffers are empty.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:40 - 3723 of 12628

It wasn't BoJO that got the LEAVE vote, it was the population and who have
been betrayed by the establishment parties. ..

And UKIP to represent them.

If it had been left to the blue on blue it would have been a remain vote...

jimmy b - 27 Jun 2016 14:41 - 3724 of 12628

If they have us over on free movement of people i would vote UKIP in a heartbeat and so would millions of other brits that i guarantee.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:41 - 3725 of 12628

Labour does not represent the very people they were set up for, they're
finished..

Thats where UKIP will step in...

MaxK - 27 Jun 2016 14:42 - 3726 of 12628

Does (new deal) free movement include open access to benefits?

Martini - 27 Jun 2016 14:44 - 3727 of 12628

Jeremy Corbyn isn't going anywhere IMO. History tells us that when Marxist's get some power they do not go quickly.

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 14:47 - 3728 of 12628

"History tells us that when marxist's get some power they do not
go quickly"


No take those muppets in Brussels...

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:50 - 3729 of 12628

The only hope to get rid of Corbyn is the possibility that he is not among the list to be voted on. His supporters say he gets on the ballot automatically, but the Secretary of the Labour Party say he won't put his name on the list unless he gets 51 MPs to support him. There could be High Court action.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 15:32 - 3730 of 12628

Stephen Kinnock resigns.
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