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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 25 Feb 2014 14:21 - 37111 of 81564

i know sticky has squelched me, as if one cares one iota, but you're right hays
why should any mp or anyone else not benefit from rents paid by the taxpayer?
i do and i'm pretty sure sticky does too, though it would be inconvenient for him to admit it

that this chap receives a large slab through the benefit system could even be argued that he is acting in a socially responsible and beneficial way, for he is prepared to let out his properties to those on benefits, whereas a great many landlords refuse point blank .... imagine the outcry if he was one such!

it is true that the tories could have built more low end housing, and i am puzzled to scandalised that boris seems to have badly underspent on this sector ..... however, how much emphasis did labour ever put on building such accommodation or better still, rejuvenating existing properties?

goldfinger - 25 Feb 2014 14:38 - 37112 of 81564

Hays hes getting it from the same welfare system that he loves to take a swipe at.

If their was no welfare system would he have the same demand for his property, very unlikely given that welfare is subsidising stingy employers who pay the minimum wage or less.

The welfare system is in fact under housing benefit helping to push up private rents. Let to buy lenders know their is a safety net. Their is a shortage of social housing dating back to Thatchers right to buy. 2/3rd of council houses sold under that now in the hands of private landlords. 'they saw her coming'.

I have a few houses I rent which use housing benefit as part payment but unlike this chap I dont go around calling my tenants scroungers.

Wheres all this morality fat Dave talked of last week.

cynic - 25 Feb 2014 14:41 - 37113 of 81564

welfare is subsidising stingy employers who pay the minimum wage or less.
what a preposterous and stupid statement that i'm afraid sticky trots out on a regular basis

Haystack - 25 Feb 2014 15:03 - 37114 of 81564

gf's comments have some logic, although he wouldn't like the conclusions drawn from them.

Yes, it is possible that benefits may help keep rents up. It is also true that this government is attempting to do something about the problem by having a benefit cap. This should stop people on benefits getting the rent to expensive property paid for them.

cynic - 25 Feb 2014 15:04 - 37115 of 81564

i thought it was already capped for "normal" couples or single parent at about £700 pm

Fred1new - 25 Feb 2014 16:16 - 37116 of 81564

Manuel,

"cynic Send an email to cynic View cynic's profile - 25 Feb 2014 14:41 - 37115 of 37117

welfare is subsidising stingy employers who pay the minimum wage or less.
what a preposterous and stupid statement that i'm afraid sticky trots out on a regular basis"


Engage your brain before rushing to print. You will find it behind the eyes and between the ears, if it hasn’t already deteriorated too far.

Take the "stingy" out of the statement and examine the "statement" again.

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What I have never understood is how palming out a state run service to a "private company" is successful.

I can see the "efficiency" and cost effectiveness of contracting out to a "technical development company" or similar small highly "intellectual" units while introducing new “machinery”, or even evolutionary techniques.

No problem.

But, if such are ongoing innovations then surely it is better to incorporate these “areas” into the main “business”.

Then the “savings” go into the original business and the cost of running the “new innovations” are kept in house and “profits of improved, or efficient services” go back into the original “business” to improve it further, rather than into the share holders’ pockets of the advising company.

To say a large public organisation can run an efficient cleansing agency within its own management is daft.

Losing money paying a smaller company to do so, and having no direct control over it is madness.

(I am in a hurry.)

cynic - 25 Feb 2014 16:21 - 37117 of 81564

fossy - like you, the statement is still a load of shit ..... you obviously didn't listen to Leahy this morning, as otherwise you might have learnt something

whether or not the minimum wage should be higher, or perhaps weighted according to region, is another matter, but even that may easily cause its own problems ...... but then of course you didn't watch and listen did you

therefore, engage your brain, eyes and ears before rushing to print

Fred1new - 25 Feb 2014 16:24 - 37118 of 81564

Manuel,

"i know sticky has squelched me, as if one cares one iota, "

Why mention it?

cynic - 25 Feb 2014 16:32 - 37119 of 81564

because it was relevant when written - since you seem to want to know

MaxK - 25 Feb 2014 19:22 - 37120 of 81564

DLT RETRIAL: Why is a BBC dj more important as a cps sex-crime target than a former Home Secretary?

By John Ward February 24, 2014





It’s a reasonable question to ask. Dave Lee Travis is being retried on two charges of sexual assault, dating from the period when – according to pinched-goblin Miranda Moore QC – he had suddenly morphed from “aggressive sexual predator” to “dirty old man”.

The usual Plod Stepford wife crap about “girls as young as fifteen years old” continues to be trotted out. But there was one accuser who was aged 15 in 1976, and the jury dismissed the charge in short order.


More: http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/dlt-retrial-why-is-a-bbc-dj-more-important-as-a-cps-sex-crime-target-than-a-former-home-secretary/

required field - 25 Feb 2014 19:57 - 37121 of 81564

Off the politics....take a look at Costain....looks good for 400p......

cynic - 25 Feb 2014 20:31 - 37122 of 81564

why? .... i've just posted a 5 year chart there and your optimism for 400 seems to have no foundation to me

required field - 25 Feb 2014 21:06 - 37123 of 81564

Undervalued....and the way the sp has been moving suggests a sharper move upwards from now....

doodlebug4 - 25 Feb 2014 22:17 - 37124 of 81564

When did this become a share discussion thread and can anyone join in?

aldwickk - 25 Feb 2014 22:57 - 37125 of 81564

So is Afren undervalued , Barclays today set a overweight and target price of 225p

aldwickk - 25 Feb 2014 23:02 - 37126 of 81564

CEY also undervalued , but a little more speculative

cynic - 26 Feb 2014 07:42 - 37127 of 81564

AFR - yes almost certainly, not least because its considerable KRG assets are in the books at cost only, yet are due to start delivering in the very foreseeable future

Fred1new - 26 Feb 2014 08:22 - 37128 of 81564

Fred1new - 26 Feb 2014 08:24 - 37129 of 81564

Memories.

required field - 26 Feb 2014 08:27 - 37130 of 81564

Fred1new....at times I wonder...socialist mental health problems ?....perhaps...you're becoming a pain in the... with these postings ...
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