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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 12:38 - 37200 of 81564

Coalition to impose sanctions on housing benefit

Part-time workers who are judged to be doing too little to find full-time work could have their Housing Benefit sanctioned by the government when Universal Credit comes into full force, according to Inside Housing.

The revelation is the latest in a long line of benefit betrayals to be inflicted on the poor by the Coalition government. The new development also means landlords stand to lose out.

The Department for Work and Pensions has confirmed to Inside Housing that under Universal Credit, where a tenant is working less than 35 hours per week at minimum wage and is not eligible for JSA or ESA, then the housing element can be sanctioned instead.

It seems clear that the government is determined that it should be able to take income away from everyone who is not being properly paid by their employer. Does this seem fair to you?

Under the present system, Housing Benefit is paid direct to landlords, meaning sanctions against tenants can only be applied to out-of-work benefits like Jobseekers’ Allowance or Employment and Support Allowance. The aim is to use Universal Credit to spread the threat of sanctions so that it covers people in low-paid work as well. Would you consider any government that did this to be standing up “for hardworking people”?

The article quotes a DWP spokesperson who said: “It is only right that people claiming benefits should be aware that not sticking to the rules can have a consequence.”

This, of course, assumes that a person is breaking the rules if their employer refuses to improve their working conditions… but we know that the government has altered working conditions to ensure that employers are under no pressure to do so; the benefit cap, and the one per cent limit on the annual uprating of benefits have ensured that people without jobs will become continually worse-off, so those who are in work cannot demand pay increases for fear of being handed their P45s and told that someone else will do their job for less.

Are these the actions of a government that believes we are “all in it together”?

If anybody thinks they can find justification for this behaviour, please get in touch.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 12:39 - 37201 of 81564

The new development also means landlords stand to lose out.

Haystack - 28 Feb 2014 12:42 - 37202 of 81564

The landlords will just get different tenants.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 12:42 - 37203 of 81564

Especially as Direct payment to landlords is to be abolished nationaly and claimants will be paid monthly instead of fortnightly or weekly.

THINK OF THE ARREARS OF RENT WHICH MAY BUILD UP.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 12:43 - 37204 of 81564

Stick to drinking Hays you obviously dont know how hard and long a process it is to get someone evicted.

And at a loss of rent which you never see again.

Haystack - 28 Feb 2014 12:45 - 37205 of 81564

Not difficult at all. I have a friend with a large number of properties and I have helped him with the process and paperwork.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 12:48 - 37206 of 81564

Yes youve got a lot of freinds you havent you.

Talking shite again.

Fred1new - 28 Feb 2014 12:52 - 37207 of 81564

Manuel.

Why don't you engage the remnants of you brain before rushing out your foolish opinions.

You should apply for the editorship of the Mail or similar.

Rent a mouth comes to mind.


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As I posted early Mitchell was abusive and possibly used "foul" language to the police at the "gates".

Any sensible person would have apologized and in probability it would have passed as a non-event.

Instead, the guardian of the "tax payers purse" elevated it to a farce and the state has paid, or is paying for his "vanity".


(I the past and in temper, I have cursed the police on a number of occasions, but had the sense to apologise for doing so. They a have done like so to me.)

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Right Scargill.

Before shooting off you mouth, look back at what I have posted about Scargill before making "false" assertions.

But, although I disagree with much of what Scargill did and stood for, I do feel he was maligned by the Murdoch and tory press, as often he was an easy political target for the right wing of the con party to scapegoat for their own managerial incompetence and mistakes.

Similar to the scapegoating of migrants, the EU and "weakest members" of the population.

It is dirty politics as practiced by the con members of the coalition government.

The NASTY PARTY IS BACK and it stinks.





cynic - 28 Feb 2014 12:53 - 37208 of 81564

sticky - not sure where you got the above info/article, but it's not factually correct anyway ......

Under the present system, Housing Benefit is paid direct to landlords
no it isn't! ..... i know so, because my "benefits tenant" pays me by DD from her own bank a/c

so how much else of that article is incorrect or merely hearsay or guesswork or worse?

cynic - 28 Feb 2014 12:57 - 37209 of 81564

fossy stands up for scargill by trying to pass the buck ...... no surprises ever from the red corner

scargill, along with a number of others, was in the direct or indirect pay of communist russia .... his aim was only peripherally to look after the union members; his real aim was to wreck the whole uk economy, and thank goodness we had someone at the helm who was strong enough to stand up to him and his cronies, and ultimately to defeat them ..... and no, i would say exactly the same had there been someone from the other party who fought as hard for what was right for this country

as in the last war, cometh the hour, cometh the man - well woman in this instance

Haystack - 28 Feb 2014 12:58 - 37210 of 81564

gf
He even gets back money owed when people leave. If you do credit checks when people start the tenancy you have their bank details. When they leave you can have them credit checked again and you will finfd their new address. He then has a debt registered against them and pursues the money at the new address, using bailifs if needed. No one ever gets away with owing money to him. I remember some twenty years ago when he owned a chain of staff agencies across London, he would sue for even small debts plus costs. He once sued someone for less than £10, which he got plus costs.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 12:59 - 37211 of 81564

Cyners my rent is paid direct to me weve had this discussion before. CERTAIN councils only a few have adopted the new system in anticipation of Universal Credit.

The article is spot on just do a google and see how many returns you get.

If I remember correctly your tenants work part time dont they???

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 13:08 - 37212 of 81564

HAYS BUNKUM......watch channel 5 on mondays new series started 9pm, yep after a lengthy delay up to 18 months he'l get his house back but he wont get his rent back.

And as for bailifs going in and trying to reposes goods to the value of arrears owed ....forget it...complete waste of time.

Get a fraction back of what you are owed.

And do you really think a person owing money is going to fill in the statutory electorate sheet sent out every year. Without filling that in they cant be traced.

Your so called pall is telling you porkies.

People who have no money have nothing to lose always remember that hays.

Fred1new - 28 Feb 2014 13:18 - 37213 of 81564

Manuel,

So were Burgess, Maclean and Philby Blunt and many others.

Who did the most damage.

Your aspersions are becoming as daft as you are!

When you bring the mirage of Thatcher to the surface I see the Murderous act of the Belgrano and the number of Argentinians drowning under her steerage.

Also, the "buying" of "favours" for Sir Mark Thatcher, 2nd Baronet. Was he ever "tried for terrorism" or were "deals done" on his behalf.

By the way pop into the history of the Profumo case, the Boothby girl friend and "boys" brigade, etc.

Must be due to their exposure when "growing" up!

Watch out for glasshouses!

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cynic - 28 Feb 2014 13:25 - 37214 of 81564

tell me something fossy, did you ever vote at a general election, and if so for whom?

i'm sure you wouldn't have liked blair - with the passing, he has developed more and more traits of the slimiest of reptiles - but then i guess jimmy reid would only have been just far enough left to satisfy your whims

Haystack - 28 Feb 2014 13:28 - 37215 of 81564

gf
My friend's experience is very different. He has always regained his properties fairly easily. He get his money back as well. He pursues people for years after. If goods seized don't add up to enough, he goes after them later. No one escapes owing him money.

goldfinger - 28 Feb 2014 13:38 - 37216 of 81564

You mean he beats them up!!!!!!! yes I can see that, thats the type of friend you would associate with. All makes sense that now, i bet hes a tax dodger like you aswell.

cynic - 28 Feb 2014 13:40 - 37217 of 81564

last comment was just silly

however, i fully understand landlords who will not rent to those on benefits (or students!), as the downside risk is very considerable
pursuing the guys through the courts after the event is almost certainly good money after bad in 9 cases out of 10

Haystack - 28 Feb 2014 13:53 - 37218 of 81564

The situation in Ukraine is very worrying. It is a car crash happening in slow motion. I have been a member of the Frontline Club for a number of years. It is a club, meeting place for foreign correspondents and especially those working on the front line in war zones. I am attending one of their events on Wednesday about the Ukraine situation. They have expert speakers and often correspondents who may have been the particular area of conflict, sometimes the previous day. The question/answer sessions after are very good as the audience usually includes well known news staff and war correspondents from all the main news organisations. I have attended events on Syria and Palestine previously, which were excellent.

Fred1new - 28 Feb 2014 13:55 - 37219 of 81564

Mauel,

You are correct I didn't like Blair, but I suppose a lot of his problems was down to his schooling and the morality he imbibed during that period,


Did you go to the same school?

I have only a faint memory of Jimmy Reid, and as I can't remember his stance or policies weren't and won't comment.

But I never had a political fixation, or any other type of fixation, which I was not prepared to revise.

However it is possible that he had the same numbers of votes when he was a Union leader, as the party of conners will get at the next EU elections.

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But I do wish Cameron would get of his knees and look at Merkel in the eyes.



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