Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

NCCL paedophilia scandal: Harriet Harman and Jack Dromey will have to resign



By Toby Young Politics Last updated: February 28th, 2014



Press release issued by the NCCL in 1976


I still can’t quite believe it. But here’s the evidence in black and white. In 1976, the NCCL put out a press release proposing that the age of consent be lowered to 14 “with special provisions for situations where the partners are close in age, or where consent of a child over ten can be proved”. So let me get this straight. If the NCCL had had its way, a paedophile could induce a 10-year-old child to have sex with him and, provided he could "prove" he or she had consented, that child's parents would have no legal redress?





Full story here: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100261647/nccl-paedophilia-scandal-harriet-harman-and-jack-dromey-will-have-to-resign/

I'm a Landlord and this benefit or housing benefit paid do to the Tenants directly should be stopped....they just pocket the money and do a runner...I have had a couple of male tenants that have clocked up massive debts ...they even owe council tax...take out loans with every company that will lend to them and move on...water...utilities, remain unpaid ...and they do the same trick everywhere they go....moving from county to county ...out of the country...back in....and so forth...scandalous...and now they get the housing benefits paid directly to them....who comes up with these damn ideas...?...ought to be shot...

Harriet Harman should apologise for paedophile group links, Cameron suggests

The Prime Minister said Patricia Hewitt was taking 'the right approach' by offering a full apology



Harriet Harman is becoming increasingly isolated in her refusal to apologise Photo: WARREN ALLOTT



By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent

1:19PM GMT 28 Feb 2014


David Cameron has intervened in the row over senior labour figures' historic links to paedophile groups saying that Patricia Hewitt has been right to apologise over her involvement.


Miss Hewitt, a former Labour cabinet minister and Harriet Harman, the deputy leader of the Labour party held prominent roles in the National Council for Civil Liberty which had links with the child sex group the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE).


While Miss Hewitt has offered a frank admission that she “got it wrong” over the links with PIE and apologised Miss Harman has repeatedly refused to make a similar apology instead insisting that she “has nothing to apologise for.”


The Prime Minister’s spokesman said that while it was a “matter for Harriet Harman” whether she finally decided to apologise the Prime Minister believed that Liberty (the name that the NCCL is now known by), Shami Chakrabarti and Patricia Hewitt have taken “the right approach” by giving issuing full apologies for their links.


More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10667776/Harriet-Harman-should-apologise-for-paedophile-group-links-Cameron-suggests.html

When was the age of consent raised to 16?

How does the law relate to the consent age of buggery?

Heard some develop the taste before that?

I think any 14 year old male or female having "sex" should be hung.

This law should be introduced and used retrospectively.

Go for it.

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When you take on tenants do a credit check and only accept people with sufficient I'd and a real bank account that has been operated for a while and no CCJs.

RF its IDS who should be shot then, its his civil servants proposals that hes backed. Its for this Universal Credit which imo will never happen.

Im with you all housing benefit should be paid direct to landlords.

1. the claimant cant get in rent debt

2. The landlord is secure in the knowledge no arrears or fraud can take place on the monthly benefit.

The more checks at the start...the better....

Well Hays yes prevention is better than cure, but I wouldnt turn a person away without a bank account. I want the benefit to go into my account not theirs.

Sometimes occasionaly I ask them to get a reference from their doctor if I have suspicions.

I think any 14 year old male or female having "sex" should be hung
well that'll significantly reduce the unemployment register in a couple of years time ..... wonder why the tories didn't think of that in 2010? .... it would reduce the benefits bill by many £m a year too - spiffing idea!!

I do a credit check on every tenant at the beginning of the tenancy.

Just lob it in with the other side of my syndicate business short term stay and long term stay high rise flats.

I cant believe how easy it is for kids of 16 to get council houses and I think also housing association tenancies.

Personaly I wouldnt entertain a young kid of 16 wanting to rent one of my properties.

Far too young to be independant imo thats why I dont like Millibands idea of giving them the vote.

Having no bank account is a big red flag. I wouldn't do any sort of business with someone who did not have a bank account of long standing plus a bank reference. I would want some employment history etc. There is a shortage of housing, so you can be quite choosy who you rent to.

sticky - do yourself a fave and get up to speed with FOXT

FOXT?????????

foxtons you muppet

Ohhhhhhhhhhh well overvalued.

Right off for a pint.

US flying up and us stuck on 6800 or abouts.

Market top.

There is an interesting story about my friend. He had a very large employment agency business, contract nurses was one of his big areas. In those days the money you deducted from employees on PAYE did not have to be paid to the Inland Revenue straight away. In fact, you could hang on to it for a very long time. Even when enforcement officials got involved, you could delay paying with various excuses. I knew my friend had not paid his PAYE tax for a long time. In fact it was over two years late. He kept it in a money market account to earn some interest.

He rang me one morning to tell me that IR officials turned up at his house early and kicked his front door down. They demanded about £1m, which was their estimate. He wrote them a cheque for the full amount. It was only about half what he owed. He paid up the rest and a lot more when he sold the business a few years later.

He started out as a computer programmer and later I was in business with him. He once ordered some pencils with our company name on them. A huge packing case arrived full of boxes of pencils. One of our staff asked why we had so many. Ken replied in a very strong Irish accent, "I thought a gross was 20".

sticky - don't bet on it ...... i'ld be surprised if FOXT does not still have good legs with the london and SE housing markets being as strong as they are