Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

why not try discussing what is going on in ukraine?
we have the russian bully-boys on one side, and seemingly a bunch of anarchists and neo-nazis on the other
thus, the implications of what might happen there are infinitely more important and worthy of our attention than the constant stream of nonsense you guys on your soapboxes keep throwing about


lets face it, neither labour nor the conservatives have any decent let alone strong leadership, or even worthwhile policies ..... come May next year, there'll probably be a t/o of about 55% and we'll end up with some dreadful gov't or other

how labour supporters must rue voting for the ineffectual brother who is "owned" by the militant unions

There are only a small bunch of so called Nazis.....or are they nazis ?....every country has some of them...even Britain and the USA...oil might start to shoot up : that's a big possibility...elections...that's what should be happening in the Ukraine...sad to see such shambles out there..

I think in their circumstances I would rely on luck and hope that Russia is satisfied with the Crimea as a mouthful.

Can see Crimea separating from the rest and attempting to run as a individual state under the financial thumb of Putin.

Not sure what the economic effect will be, or what the share out of their debt will be.

I think in their circumstances I would rely on luck and hope that Russia is satisfied with the Crimea as a mouthful.

Can see Crimea separating from the rest and attempting to run as a individual state under the financial thumb of Putin.

Not sure what the economic effect will be, or what the share out of their debt will be.

Nazi Germany did exactly the same thing...Russia...today

There are a large number of right wing nationalists. It was these groups that were the driving force during the protest recently and almost certainly they were the ones who were armed and shot at the police. Some of the members of these groups have already been given jobs in the new government.

There has been a split between the right wing nationalists and the ethnic Russians due to the western area supporting the Nazis in the war. It is not for nothing that the eastern part and the Russians call the protestors fascists.

They are not all extremists but the people you see breaking the law will be...and I have to say : their mps voted the expresident out ......

i think we all need to read and learn exactly what is going on there, and try to determine who this new "mob" are who have forced their way into power
sure as hell it wasn't a democratic result!

the sister of a friend of mine has now fled the ukraine as she fears it is becoming fearfully unstable and dangerous

Manuel,

Well the latter remark is b, obvious even from sister of a friend of yours!

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I thought the right wingers in Kieve look like a group of young tories on a night out.

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Haze,

I thought the right wingers in Kiev look like a group of young tories, or Bullingdon Club "boyos" on a night out.


Were you attempting to smear the large number of "moderate" Ukrainians in the square in Kiev, on the grounds of a minority of supposed "right wingers" who may have been trying to usurp the "apparent" power.

Even, in a democracy the right (even the loony right of the ts.), and left wingers should have a right to take part in any government when or if it is being formed iin such circumstance as seem to be occurring there.

The last thing the majority of "ethnic Ukrainians" need is puppet government of the America and "West", or of the Putin's Russia, nor do they wish to be beholding of either sides.

If the ethnic Crimeanss wish similar, or to attach themselves after a "referendum" to Russia, so be it.

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I wish them luck!

They will need it.

I think the West, should give them all the financial help to stabilise their currency etc. and if asked, advice for constitutional and legal changes, which have to take place.

But otherwise remain on the side lines.

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fossy - as your sobriquet implies, you're a total arsehole ..... as so often, you come out with a load of total and utter rubbish, for clearly you know no more than the rest of us, so just embroider to suit your own agenda

if your children have left home, they must have done so with a huge sigh of relief, assuming the strong likelihood that you pontificate at home like the red-socialist equivalent of alf garnett that you have pretensions to here

I thought the right wingers in Kieve look like a group of young tories on a night out.



I thought they looked like Arthur Scargills bully boy miners pickets

Manuel.

Reading p37300, I would think you could play for the role of Alf Garnett, without need of any rehearsal and make use your own personal script when doing so.

As far as knowing more than the rest, I am well aware of my own limitations and don't make false claims about my knowledge.

Certainly you make many of your own limitations obvious.

Don't hit the bottle to hard, to-night!

8-)

you're keen enough to make false assumptions about everyone else, so what's your problem if the tables are turned? ..... but certainly your sense of self-importance is clear for all to see

i find it truly amazing that you apparently managed to con people to pay for your views, or so you boast, though i can readily imagine them clubbing together to buy you a one-way fare to somewhere very distant and remote

It's not looking good in the Ukraine tonight...that's for sure.....it should be a quiet, prosperous country but having the Russians trying to bully you into submission is quite unacceptable !.....the problem with the Russians is that they just don't know how to behave (a bit like some of our own I might say)....but on a bigger scale.....they just think that the rest of the world are mugs and do just about anything....if the West and the Rest of the world give them a good beating : they will welcome a peace deal at the Kremlin...all smiles ..handshakes...perhaps even a hugbear of a kind....(I would have a knife in their ribs whilst that is going on)....but yes all smiles for the cameras...everybody happy....because that is what they are like (their leaders anyway).....

Are you on drugs rf?

Far from it.....check out the latest news.....there is no difference between Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia than the present modern one.....unless something is done : their invasions and quest for domination will continue !....and get worse...

Russia is like a cross between the wild west and the Mafia. I have an acquaintance who is the MD of a diamond and gold exploration company. He lives in the UK, but travels extensively in Africa, Russia, Australia, South America etc. He used to deal with Chavez and deals with Putin. The only place that he regards as dangerous is Russia. When he goes there, he has a substantial bodyguard detail with arms and bulletproof cars. The normal rules of business don't apply.

I have an old friend that is an arms dealer. However, he deals with memorabilia and all the guns are fixed to not fire. He is married to a Russian girl and lives in the UK. Some time ago he was in Russia and bought a few items. One of them was a grenade launcher which had been fixed. He went through customs and was stopped. The customs officer asked to open the case. He saw the contents and closed the case. He then said that he thought the suitcase was overweight. My friend asked how much overweight. The customs officer said it was overweight by $100. The money was paid and that was that. The interesting part is that the customs officer couldn't have known the grenade launcher did not work and he let him take it out of the country on a plane. This of course was before 9/11.

PS,

I thought it was Manuel for a moment!