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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 14:50 - 3729 of 12628

The only hope to get rid of Corbyn is the possibility that he is not among the list to be voted on. His supporters say he gets on the ballot automatically, but the Secretary of the Labour Party say he won't put his name on the list unless he gets 51 MPs to support him. There could be High Court action.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 15:32 - 3730 of 12628

Stephen Kinnock resigns.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 15:32 - 3731 of 12628

Resignation #27: Keir Starmer

jimmy b - 27 Jun 2016 15:36 - 3732 of 12628

What happened to will10 ?

cynic - 27 Jun 2016 15:38 - 3733 of 12628

i don't really care what the labour party does, but as i wrote earlier, the conservatives need to get to work and quickly to create some sort of internal harmony if they want to avoid handing labour the next GE on a plate

cameron, unlike corbyn, has done the correct thing and fallen on his sword
who should succeed him i don't really know

VICTIM - 27 Jun 2016 15:45 - 3734 of 12628

One thing that last nights QT did do was at least they all admitted that the vote should stand and that they should all knuckle down to making it work . Which was something .

grannyboy - 27 Jun 2016 15:45 - 3735 of 12628

Labour will be fecked at the next GE if there is a stitch up with the
Brexit, and the torys will lose a few seats...

So UKIP could hold the balance of power...

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 16:00 - 3736 of 12628

Fantasy time. To get more than one seat would need a huge increase in votes for UKIP. There is a wide distaste for UKIP and Farage the rabble rouser.

VICTIM - 27 Jun 2016 16:04 - 3737 of 12628

Haystack you did say Leave didn't stand a chance , and also Dave would still be PM and that there was pact between the Cons not to take on Dave in a leader contest , and Nige basically gave you the chance to get out of the EU , strewth .

Haystack - 27 Jun 2016 16:09 - 3738 of 12628

I thought Cameron would be PM is we remained. In common with almost everybody including the Leave campaign I thought Remain would win. Farage helped produce a referendum, but Boris won it.

cynic - 27 Jun 2016 16:18 - 3739 of 12628

not entirely ..... corbyn ran a successful 5th column

VICTIM - 27 Jun 2016 16:27 - 3740 of 12628

Any way cynics dead right they had better get on with it and not split and argue otherwise there will be a backlash for the Cons . Boris's neighbours were booing him Friday .

cynic - 27 Jun 2016 16:39 - 3741 of 12628

not convinced that boris is the right man for the job
leaving his persona aside, he may be seen as too divisive

cynic - 27 Jun 2016 16:46 - 3742 of 12628

someone mentioned some eu(?) meeting at sintra
good to see they'll be convening at somewhere exceedingly exclusive and expensive ..... never mind; it won't cost them a bean, nor the expensive banqueting and wines

Fred1new - 27 Jun 2016 17:01 - 3743 of 12628

Will you be waiting at table hoping for a few tips?

cynic - 27 Jun 2016 17:05 - 3744 of 12628

wouldn't mind doing that ...... it's a bugger of a place to get to, though now much easier with the motorway

iturama - 27 Jun 2016 17:10 - 3745 of 12628

Jolly for the central bankers. Fraternisation. Carney will not be going, business at home.

cynic - 27 Jun 2016 17:20 - 3746 of 12628

i think this is the modest establishment ......
Tivoli Palácio de Seteais

like the eu and its plutocracy, a report stated "The hotel is starting to show signs of tiredness. The grounds are huge and parts of the gardens are unkempt and dying. The dinner in the restaurant was very disappointing, food expensive, unattractive and tasteless"

Fred1new - 27 Jun 2016 17:44 - 3747 of 12628

Motorways built with EU money for holiday makers.

iturama - 27 Jun 2016 17:52 - 3748 of 12628

I had a nice stay at the Tivoli in Lisbon. Food was good and rooms quite comfortable. There are plenty of good restaurants also within walking distance. I recommended it to a Brazilian couple and they loved it. For overnight stays between flights i also like the Corinthian. Nice roof top restaurant. Good breakfast.
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