Socrates
- 10 Jan 2004 10:34
Time now for all us Wiggins watchers to move with the times and start using Planestation, the new company identity. The name Wiggins Group plc has now disappeared from the database at Companies House and Planestation is now listed on the LSE website.
So fellow travellers, forget Wiggins, the name of the game is now PLANESTATION. Lets hope it goes like an express train.
Golfclub12
- 28 Apr 2004 08:08
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Socrates
How local are you to the airport if you have been enjoying such cuisine??
I live in Ramsgate and frequent the spitfire memorial cafe (very nice indeed)
Regards G12
Socrates
- 28 Apr 2004 17:33
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G12
You can see from my profile that I live in Cheltenham, full face I look more like Walls End! I lived in Thanet for about 30 of my formative years and go back regularly to visit relatives. Manston is always on my visit list and my relatives and correspondents keep me informed too.
I'm very much afraid that you have missed any chance of the Cumberland Sausage that gave Golddog such mirth. The Spitfire Cafe is quite nice too though. Many a happy hour I have spent watching the aircraft come and go through my bin's whilst sat at an outside table.
Golfclub12
- 28 Apr 2004 18:51
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Still cheltenham is a nice place , especially when looking from Cleeve Hill :))
Socrates
- 28 Apr 2004 19:02
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Yes, Cleeve Hill can be a nice place to sit and view the floods from the River Severn!
Canberra BI6
- 29 Apr 2004 11:56
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Socrates, thought I'd pop back to visit you, the other site at present is extremely depressing. Scru although has thrown a little more light with his revelations that make interesting reading. I do respect his vast knowledge and was totally impressed in his approach to the Board at 2003's AGM during question time.
Have been invited to a Top Table at Marham next week, one of my past Chf's has been promoted to WO, should be a cracking function.
Fundamentalist
- 29 Apr 2004 13:36
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Item on BBC news regarding the Liverpool Festival Gardens. Although PTG refused to comment it appears they have done a deal to transfer over the lease. an announcement is expected on Tuesday accoring to the reporter. Anyone know anymore on this?
Fundamentalist
- 29 Apr 2004 15:07
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"New deal for derelict Garden Festival site Apr 29 2004
Exclusive By Mark Hookham, Daily Post
LIVERPOOL'S International Garden Festival site is to be sold in a deal which it is hoped will reverse years of dereliction and decay.
Sources last night told the Daily Post that owner Planestation has agreed a multi-million pound deal to give up its lease of the riverside site.
The news comes only days before the 20th anniversary of the Garden Festival opening and follows years of failure to develop the land in Otterspool, south Liverpool.
The Daily Post understands executives from Planestation, formerly Wiggins, agreed on Tuesday night to assign the site's lease to an unnamed company.
The new leaseholder will hire a developer who will draw up a fresh planning application to transform the site in time for Capital of Culture year in 2008.
The deal for the lucrative site will be announced next week.
A source close to the negotiations last night said: "The deal has been on the cards and will be announced next week.
"Planestation will assign the lease to a third party and it will strike a deal with a developer.
"Planestation have been changing their portfolio of assets and this fits in with that."
It is understood the council wants any new developer to use the majority of the site for family homes.
A small number of the shops will be built and an area will be left open - possibly as part of a coastal park.
Part of the site, including the Chinese gardens, will be restored as public gardens.
Council leader Mike Storey said: "This is the news we have been waiting for for many years.
"There has been a singular lack of progress on this site which meant so much to a lot of people who remember it in its hey-day as a successful garden festival.
"The inactivity has been as frustrating for the city council as it has been for anyone else who values it as a primary site.
"Hopefully now quick progress can be made on delivering an appropriate and sustainable development which will enjoy the support of local people and visitors."
A Planestation spokesman last night refused to comment.
Jean Hills, from the Garden Festival Campaign, urged the new owner not to just build hundreds of homes on the site.
She said: "I want to know who the developer is and what they want from the site. I would much rather have the council take direct control."
Labour leader Joe Anderson said: "The council should have used CPO powers to bring in developers who want work with the council and transform that site. That should have been done two years ago."
The reclaimed landfill site has been derelict since 1986 and a succession of plans for its revival have fallen through.
Wiggins was granted a lease by Merseyside Development Corporation in 1996. In 1998, the company revealed plans for a 1,000ft tower which the council ruled was not feasible.
Three years ago, Wiggins announced scaled-down plans which met fierce opposition from environmental groups, partly because it included a new road to run parallel with Otterspool Promenade.
Last year, the company's third plan for the site was withdrawn before it reached the council's planning committee. In December, the company changed its name to Planestation and announced a 46.3m refinancing package.
apple
- 29 Apr 2004 16:40
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Good news again.
I hope they get a good price, we await the numbers.
apple
- 30 Apr 2004 08:57
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optomistic
- 30 Apr 2004 13:32
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Seems to be lots going on at ptg, couldn't resist the temptation any longer, bought 20K @ 4.35p this morning. Feel that ptg could become a 'news item' soon.
Being a little selfish I know but LOL to ptg players.
opto
JRM
- 30 Apr 2004 13:57
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Spoke to a Director this morning and he wasn't too happy! What's really going on?
optomistic
- 30 Apr 2004 14:02
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Thanks JRM thats all I need to hear after just buying. Lets hope its something like his private jet has failed its C of A that caused his sadness!
Fundamentalist
- 30 Apr 2004 14:42
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JRM
Sorry to appear paranoid but can I ask a few questions:
Which director?
What did you discuss?
What was he not happy about?
If you have just talked to a director why are you asking BB contributors whats going on. surely your director would have known more!
Appears to be more sells than buys but price has gone up.
i believe today was the self imposed deadline Iny gave himself to outline his intentions.
Fundamentalist
- 30 Apr 2004 14:48
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Continuing my paranoia, JRM do you hold PTG shares as I cant remember you posting on this thread before?
hangon
- 30 Apr 2004 15:23
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I know there is a Shareholder action group trying to bring Iny back - - -
is there one that doesn't?
He sure had vision all those years ago, but the business has moved from Vision to Working and I'm not so sure he's the best man for that job.
Worth giving the new management a little time first, eh?
I don't approve of break-up, knowing that shareholders are last in line, etc.
IMHO what is needed is some Political stance, on the advantages of investing in a separate London airport.
Heck, we could even build our Olympic stadium out there.
What a pity INY never suggested the Dome should be put there! That would have had some local benefit. At least the trains would be on time until the strike of midnight.
Regards.
apple
- 30 Apr 2004 16:21
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Protected Trade 2 Million BUY @ 4.31p
Maybe there are more to come.
optomistic
- 30 Apr 2004 17:26
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Followed by a late reported buy for 1 million
Scottie
- 30 Apr 2004 18:45
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C'mon JRM, you need to back that statement up. As usual Iny fails to deliver,good decision to get rid of him.
moggey70
- 30 Apr 2004 21:24
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Directors are not allowed to give news out its lse rules , it would have to be annouced to the lse first.
One of the directors recently bought a million shares at 4.6p so i can only see upside
edocherty
- 01 May 2004 01:32
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moggey70,
As much as I support PTG personally, I feel that I must point out that the most recent director to have been reported as buying 1 million shares was the recently sacked Mr Iny.
Mr Iny has been replaced as CEO by Mr May - who is described as a recovery specialist.
If you read back on this and other boards you will find that Mr Iny does have a number of individuals who are campaigning to have him reinstated.
These individuals are concerned that, in their opinion, the sacking of Mr Iny was forced upon the board by the Pru. (One of the main institutions involved in the recent rescue of the company).
Personally- I do not hold with this reinstatement opinion, each board member has a vote using their own opinion and are able to vote according to their own view.
Mr Iny has been voted out I think we should look forward and get behind the new Board. The continued support of Mr Iny over Mr May will permeate discord. Mr May has stated his intention to publish his intentions for the company in the near future.
However, irrespective of the mechanism which was used to remove Mr Iny - He has shown confidence in the company - he has put his money where his mouth is by buying a further 1 million shares from his own pocket.
Mr Iny has a limited number of options in which to use his holdings in the company, his family trust (over which I feel he must be able to exert some influence) does hold a very substantial number of shares. Now that he is no longer a director I know of no reason why he cannot bring that influence to bear?
Mr Iny had stated that he would announce his intentions at the end of April No announcement has yet been heard from Mr Iny. (With such a large family holding I would not be surprised if any announcement by Mr Iny was deliberately held back until it suited him or his family trust/s).
To say 'that you can only see upside because of this purchase' may be seen and countered by detractors on this board as ramping.
There are reported rumours in the Liverpool press about the disposal of the Festival Garden site. In my opinion the company had stated their intention to dispose of all non airport related assets as soon as they could.
I think the delay in disposing of these sites was instrumental in the sacking of Mr Iny.
The disposal/sale terms are yet to be released, however it should not be seen as a surprise to learn that the proceeds of this sale/or a possible joint venture will be used to fund the development of the Planestation Group. After all, this is what was stated in the company offer document.
The way I see the situation the institutions supported PTG at 0.04p per share any purchase around this level is joining this institutional rescue at/about the same level.
DYOR - and good luck _- Ed