Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Resignation #27: Keir Starmer

What happened to will10 ?

i don't really care what the labour party does, but as i wrote earlier, the conservatives need to get to work and quickly to create some sort of internal harmony if they want to avoid handing labour the next GE on a plate

cameron, unlike corbyn, has done the correct thing and fallen on his sword
who should succeed him i don't really know

One thing that last nights QT did do was at least they all admitted that the vote should stand and that they should all knuckle down to making it work . Which was something .

Labour will be fecked at the next GE if there is a stitch up with the
Brexit, and the torys will lose a few seats...

So UKIP could hold the balance of power...

Fantasy time. To get more than one seat would need a huge increase in votes for UKIP. There is a wide distaste for UKIP and Farage the rabble rouser.

Haystack you did say Leave didn't stand a chance , and also Dave would still be PM and that there was pact between the Cons not to take on Dave in a leader contest , and Nige basically gave you the chance to get out of the EU , strewth .

I thought Cameron would be PM is we remained. In common with almost everybody including the Leave campaign I thought Remain would win. Farage helped produce a referendum, but Boris won it.

not entirely ..... corbyn ran a successful 5th column

Any way cynics dead right they had better get on with it and not split and argue otherwise there will be a backlash for the Cons . Boris's neighbours were booing him Friday .

not convinced that boris is the right man for the job
leaving his persona aside, he may be seen as too divisive

someone mentioned some eu(?) meeting at sintra
good to see they'll be convening at somewhere exceedingly exclusive and expensive ..... never mind; it won't cost them a bean, nor the expensive banqueting and wines

Will you be waiting at table hoping for a few tips?

wouldn't mind doing that ...... it's a bugger of a place to get to, though now much easier with the motorway

Jolly for the central bankers. Fraternisation. Carney will not be going, business at home.

i think this is the modest establishment ......
Tivoli Palácio de Seteais

like the eu and its plutocracy, a report stated "The hotel is starting to show signs of tiredness. The grounds are huge and parts of the gardens are unkempt and dying. The dinner in the restaurant was very disappointing, food expensive, unattractive and tasteless"

Motorways built with EU money for holiday makers.

I had a nice stay at the Tivoli in Lisbon. Food was good and rooms quite comfortable. There are plenty of good restaurants also within walking distance. I recommended it to a Brazilian couple and they loved it. For overnight stays between flights i also like the Corinthian. Nice roof top restaurant. Good breakfast.

Nigel Evans, Conservative MP and a Leave campaigner has said immigration will not fall significantly as a result of Brexit, saying the referendum results only means 'control' not a fall in numbers. He said that there appears to be some misunderstanding about the consequences of Brexit. When asked if migration to the UK would fall significantly now the country was leaving te EU, Mr Evans answered: "No." He said: "Under the new Australian points system we will be able to control immigration."According to N figures, immigration per head is much higher in Australia than in the UK.

one of your typically stupid comments fred


btw, it's the ECB Forum on Central Banking in Sintra, and it looks like they hold it there every year ...... how cosy for them; the greeks must appreciate it