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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

cynic - 29 Dec 2008 09:43 - 3737 of 21973

just possible my prediction that many crude short positions would be closed before year end could be coming true

Strawbs - 29 Dec 2008 10:26 - 3738 of 21973

I suspect low volumes and liquidity is helping a number of markets and shares at the moment. Unrest in the Middle East no doubt helps the oil price too. True market direction probably won't become clear until after the New Year. I must confess I'm not sure what it'll be yet though. My best guess is a sell off early on due to poor trading figures, unemployment etc., followed by an "Obama bounce" as we get close to the change over. It could equally go the other way though. Guess it depends on how the New Year hang overs play out. :-)

Good luck all with trading in 09.....

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 29 Dec 2008 11:10 - 3739 of 21973

A bit frightening when we don't really know whether the FTSE is heading for 2000+ or has already bottomed out. So many unanswered questions that I suspect will be answered in the next 3-6 mnths.

HARRYCAT - 29 Dec 2008 11:10 - 3740 of 21973

Most of the articles which I have read recently believe that the first quarter of 2009 will be difficult as many companies will report poor figures, unemployment will rise & the pound is weak against other major currencies. But the consensus of opinion seems to agree that the pound will strengthen against the dollar as the current $ strength is not built on any sustainable fundamental reasons & the U.S. budget deficits are going to be difficult to turn around coupled with high U.S. unemployment. Long term inflation in the U.S. & a weaking dollar(?) also seem to indicate that gold is going to be a good haven for investors.
The only commodity which no one seems to be able to agree on is oil. I have seen anything from $28 to $95pb, but if the price of oil doesn't increase then the russians are also going to be in trouble in 2009. Another conflict somewhere would certainly help the price of oil however, India/Pakistan, Middle East or Black Sea/Caspian sea areas???

ThePublisher - 29 Dec 2008 12:00 - 3741 of 21973

I have stopped putting links to bullish articles on the day trade thread. Nobody shows any reaction to them. I would not mind a 'what a load of poppycock' once in a while. But I guess if you trade on the rumour and sell on the news then there will never be a time when it's not NO News is Good News.

And anyway if you are a day trader you don't need hope that things are sorting themselves out to make money - it's just whether you can keep it !!

However, this was in the FT on Saturday. The author makes some interesting points and I hope that at least some of them are true.

Glass half full time.....

TP

bhunt1910 - 30 Dec 2008 15:38 - 3742 of 21973

Ftse at 4400 - time to go short I think

cynic - 30 Dec 2008 15:48 - 3743 of 21973

i am certainly more than happy to stay SHORT of ASC, WOS, WPP and MKS ...... i think the december/january retail numbers will be vile with cautious forward trading statements at best

cynic - 31 Dec 2008 18:26 - 3744 of 21973

OIL
So far, no doubt through beginner's luck, i have called Nymex correctly over the last couple of days and managed to make a tidy profit, most of which i have already banked.

It now remains to be seen whether this is just year end book-squaring or a more fundamental change of direction

steveo - 31 Dec 2008 18:32 - 3745 of 21973

I expect although 4th quarter news in price that it will be worse than expected so agree with the short position bhunt. My target test of 4000 by end of month

cynic - 31 Dec 2008 19:24 - 3746 of 21973

OIL
could be some very sore bears on friday if they have not been paying attention tonight

...........................

and i have now closed all Nymex positions, and what a cheery end to a truly horrid 2008

spitfire43 - 31 Dec 2008 21:06 - 3747 of 21973

Lets hope for a better 2009 at some point, it can't be any worse.

My new years resolution = Always sell at my stop/loss and be happy too take the loss.

splat - 31 Dec 2008 21:27 - 3748 of 21973

interesting article TP. Has the usual number of ifs, buts and maybes with a disclaimer at the end, but interesting nonetheless :-)

halifax - 01 Jan 2009 16:59 - 3749 of 21973

cynic having made a tidy profit at $41.07 on feb nymex where to now?

cynic - 01 Jan 2009 17:35 - 3750 of 21973

not sure immediately .... nymex got up to $44 in NY last night, but am pretty sure that was year end tidying up as has fallen back to $42.65 after hours...... tomorrow's trading is also likley to be a bit distorted, but it may be quite lively if you have the time to watch and trade accordingly.

over the next few months, i certainly expect nymex to strengthen north of $50 and maybe considerably more

i am travelling a lot over the next couple of weeks, so may well steer clear, which would certainly be the prudent stance

bhunt1910 - 02 Jan 2009 13:57 - 3751 of 21973

well my short would not have done so well at 4400 - so far. But this just feels too high too soon.

I guess I would be going short again at about 4500 - but then again I got the last one wrong !!

bhunt1910 - 02 Jan 2009 15:19 - 3752 of 21973

Well - I feel a short now at 4501 would be a good bet !!

bhunt1910 - 02 Jan 2009 16:10 - 3753 of 21973

Mmm - what do I know !!!

cynic - 02 Jan 2009 16:13 - 3754 of 21973

be aware that trading is very thin, so numbers easily exaggerated

Strawbs - 02 Jan 2009 16:18 - 3755 of 21973

Volume still looks pretty poor to me. Without serious conviction the moves between Christmas and New Year could easily be wiped out next week. By Tuesday or Wednesday I think direction will become clearer. Personally I haven't a clue which direction that'll be, but my gut instinct would be down again....

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

cynic - 02 Jan 2009 16:29 - 3756 of 21973

don't disagree, especially in the retail sector ..... still bullish crude, and have done very well so far
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