Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Why should there be political nervousness , we should be told everything that affects us , this is why people don't trust Governments .

My god..Another STUPID statement by the threads imbicile....haystack ANYONE from the EU can come into the UK whether they've got a job to go straight into or not, if not they CAN claim JSA and housing benefits...

Those from outside the eu can as i've stated start selling the Big Issue to claim self employment and obtain a NI number...

YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE ME POINTING THAT OUT BUT IT'S TRUE!!

There are lots of things governments don't tell us, especially regarding security matters.

Those from the EU can get an NI number, those from outside don't get one even if they are self employed. It is just a myth.

Security matters is different .

hays - stop obfuscating!

The last sentence is key and the one that begins "If you have the right to work in the UK".

When starting work or setting up as self-employed

If you start work or set up as self-employed you must apply for a National Insurance number if you do not have one. You do not need to have a plastic National Insurance number card. If you have the right to work in the UK, you will need to telephone your nearest National Insurance Number Processing Centre to make an appointment. There are three Processing Centres.

Shaftesbury Square Telephone - 028 9013 8286 if you live in the Belfast area
Portadown Telephone - 028 3877 3046 if you live in the Southern area of Northern Ireland
Lisnagelvin Telephone - 028 7185 5407 and 028 7185 5406 if you live in the Northern area
(lines are open from 9.00 am to 5.00 pm Monday to Friday) to arrange an appointment .

You will need to go to an 'Evidence of identity' interview.

"There are lots of things governments don't tell us"

The most HONEST statement you've made...

Yes of of course, take the Labour party and the Police, Social Services...Around 2000 Ann Cryer(Labour) informed ALL of the above authorities that white children were being groomed by muslim Pakistani men in her constituency of Keighley in West Yorkshire...

She was told by those who SHOULD have been protecting these children to go away and stop rocking the boat, for fear of upsetting those from the muslim community, the same happened in Rotherham and elsewhere around the UK....

TOTALLY unacceptable and shocking grannyboy .

Yes what they do is go to the Big Issue office ask to start selling the magazine and hey presto they get confirmation from Big Issue that they've being self employed go along to the offices of the NI to get their number...

SIMPLES..Even for YOU haystack...

Just an urban myth. Just to be sure, I asked my son who worked at a job centre recently and rang the job centre to confirm.

You have to have an inter usWhen starting work or setting up as self-employed

If you start work or set up as self-employed you must apply for a National Insurance number if you do not have one. You do not need to have a plastic National Insurance number card. If you have the right to work in the UK, you will need to telephone your nearest National Insurance Number Processing Centre to make an appointment. There are three Processing Centres.

Shaftesbury Square Telephone - 028 9013 8286 if you live in the Belfast area
Portadown Telephone - 028 3877 3046 if you live in the Southern area of Northern Ireland
Lisnagelvin Telephone - 028 7185 5407 and 028 7185 5406 if you live in the Northern area
(lines are open from 9.00 am to 5.00 pm Monday to Friday) to arrange an appointment .

You will need to go to an 'Evidence of identity' interview and bring documents to prove you have the right to work in the UK.

VIC , i meant that i was surprised by some peoples views , being called a racist for not wanting to welcome the world in to tiny little UK ,all of us who are concerned (and have a right to be) are attacked by a minority.
Saying that anyone who would agree with Farage and his view on immigration is the lowest common denominator ,that's racist in itself .

I'm with you now jimmy , this is why we are where we are .

Farage certainly was racist and I doubt he has changed. There is a letter that was written by one of his teachers to his headmaster asking that he not be made a prefect as he was a bully and was picking on children of other races. He went on a camping trip to Lewes with the school. While they were there he got some of the other children to march through the town singing Nazi songs. There are several other stories about him. The story about the letter comes from the teacher who wrote it.

So anyone who thinks he has the immigration figures correct is the lowest common denominator ?

Just more utter rubbish from haystack, who just will not except the truth, and believes if he keeps putting up the same posts and says it often enough, it will become the truth...

Wrong! you really do need to get a reality check..

Teachers at Dulwich College, the south London independent school, tried to prevent the future UK Independence Party leader from becoming a prefect after offending teachers with far-Right views, it was claimed.
While on a cadet force training exercise Mr Farage and his friends had “marched through a quiet Sussex village very late at night shouting Hitler Youth songs”, according to a letter sent to the Master of the college.
Today UKIP meets for its annual conference in London.
Mr Farage said he was a “bolshie teenager who pushed the boundaries of debate” but insisted he had never been a member of a far-Right organisation. He strongly denied singing any Hitler Youth songs, saying he did not know the words.
In the letter, dated 4 June 1981, Chloe Deakin, a teacher, told her colleagues: “You will recall that at the recent, and lengthy, meeting about the selection of prefects, the remark by a colleague that Farage was ‘a fascist, but perhaps that was no reason why he would not make a good prefect’ invoked considerable reaction from members of the Common Room."

Bob Jope, a former English teacher who taught Mr Farage, told Channel 4 News: “To some extent, you might say the accusation from some staff was that Nigel had voiced views that were not simply right-wing, as nobody's going to object to a place on the spectrum, but views that were quite clearly racist.”

So how do you describe Police , County Authority , etc people that were supposed to look after the welfare of said children in these areas , what is the word for them tell me Haystack . You don't like Farage but what do you think of these failures .

Grannyboy
It seems that you think by repeating your comments it becomes true. I have even posted the details from the government covering the mechanism for obtaining NI numbers for self employed and rang them. It is quite clear that you still have to prove your right to work here.

I'll try again .

So anyone who thinks he has the immigration figures correct is the lowest common denominator ?