Sharesmagazine
 Home   Log In   Register   Our Services   My Account   Contact   Help 
 Stockwatch   Level 2   Portfolio   Charts   Share Price   Awards   Market Scan   Videos   Broker Notes   Director Deals   Traders' Room 
 Funds   Trades   Terminal   Alerts   Heatmaps   News   Indices   Forward Diary   Forex Prices   Shares Magazine   Investors' Room 
 CFDs   Shares   SIPPs   ISAs   Forex   ETFs   Comparison Tables   Spread Betting 
You are NOT currently logged in
 
Register now or login to post to this thread.

THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 23:55 - 37590 of 81564

Boots certainly on the other foot now and look how close the ROCK as been to both Cameron AND Thatcher...........

and Camoron knowing of this stood up last week and said Harman should give an apology............will Dave give an apology????????????.

No 10 aide arrested over child porn: Police quiz 62-year-old who advised Cameron on web filters and was tipped for peerage
Patrick Rock was one of David Cameron's closest aides
The 62-year-old was involved in drawing up policy on child porn
But he quit after allegations against him were revealed
Unmarried aristocrat was tipped for peerage only weeks ago

By JAMES CHAPMAN
PUBLISHED: 22:46, 3 March 2014 | UPDATED: 23:20, 3 March 2014

Patrick Rock, a key advisor to the Prime Minister, has been arrested on suspicion of child porn offences.

One of David Cameron's closest aides has resigned after being arrested on child pornography allegations.
Patrick Rock has been closely involved in drawing up Government policy on internet porn filters.
He quit after the Prime Minister learned he was at the centre of a police probe over images of child abuse.

Detectives from the National Crime Agency searched No 10 and examined IT systems and offices used by Mr Rock, deputy director of the Downing Street policy unit.
Mr Rock was a protege of Margaret Thatcher and has held a series of senior posts in the Conservative Party. He has been close to Mr Cameron for many years.
Described as the Prime Minister's 'policy fixer', the unmarried 62-year-old had been tipped as a leading contender for a Conservative peerage only weeks ago.

His arrest and resignation from Downing Street, where he has worked since 2011, will send shockwaves through the party's high command. The Prime Minister is said to be 'extremely shocked'.
A friend said: 'He has known Patrick for a long time and never expected anything like this.'
Mr Rock was arrested last month after officials at No 10 were made aware of a 'potential offence relating to child abuse imagery', Mr Cameron's spokesman told the Daily Mail.
One well-placed source said Mr Rock had also been the subject of a sexual harassment complaint from a civil servant working in Downing Street, which is understood to have been passed to Mr Cameron's chief of staff Ed Llewellyn.
'There were accusations against him that didn't turn into a formal process. That has upset some people at No 10,' the source said.
Mr Cameron's relationship with Mr Rock goes back to the Home Office, where they both worked under Michael Howard in the 1990s.


Mr Rock, who has repeatedly tried to become an MP, is known in Westminster for coining the phrase 'Cows moo, dogs bark, Labour puts up taxes' used by the Tories in the 1970s.

The Prime Minister brought him back into Downing Street in 2011, a move welcomed by critics as heralding the return of a 'grown up' to the centre of government.
In the No 10 policy unit, he has taken a particular responsibility for home affairs issues and has also been involved in drawing up the Government's measures against internet pornography and child abuse imagery.

Google and other search engines introduced changes that will prevent depraved images from being listed in results for more than 100,000 searches after Government pressure

In a crusade spearheaded by the Prime Minister, Downing Street brokered a deal with internet firms which means that all 20million households connected to the internet are being contacted and asked whether they want family-friendly filters installed.
Downing Street also persuaded Google and other search engines to introduce changes that will prevent depraved images from being listed in results for more than 100,000 searches.

Downing Street confirmed that Mr Rock, who lives in West London, had been involved in the policy.
'The Prime Minister believes that child abuse imagery is abhorrent and that anyone involved with it should be properly dealt with under the law.'
Downing Street spokesman
'Patrick Rock was one of a number of advisers and officials involved in dealing with this issue – but the work was led by somebody else, and decisions were taken by ministers,' a spokesman said.
'On the evening of February 12, Downing Street was first made aware of a potential offence relating to child abuse imagery. It was immediately referred to the National Crime Agency.
'The Prime Minister was immediately informed and kept updated throughout. Patrick Rock was arrested at his home in the early hours of February 13, a few hours after Downing Street had reported the matter.
'Subsequently, we arranged for officers to come into No 10 and have access to all IT systems and offices they considered relevant.
'This is an ongoing investigation so it would not be appropriate to comment further, but the Prime Minister believes that child abuse imagery is abhorrent and that anyone involved with it should be properly dealt with under the law.'
The spokesman denied suggestions that colleagues in No 10 had been told Mr Rock was 'off sick', but only the Prime Minister and a handful of his most senior officials appear to have been told the reason for his absence.
Downing Street refused to comment on the allegation of sexual harassment, but insisted: 'All complaints are dealt with very seriously and are dealt with appropriately.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572495/No-10-aide-arrested-child-porn-Police-quiz-man-advised-Cameron-web-filters.html#ixzz2uwk1SzlG
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

goldfinger - 03 Mar 2014 23:57 - 37591 of 81564

Fred I bet your really upset Hays as filtered you.

Must be one heck of a blow.

goldfinger - 04 Mar 2014 00:08 - 37592 of 81564

What a prat that story above makes Camoron look.

Back benchers will be fuming.

They had secured a couple of points off labour but now labour will probably get a 10 point lead.

So close to Wavy Davey and Maggie aswel.

Haystack - 04 Mar 2014 00:11 - 37593 of 81564

Not really important how close he is to anyone. What matters is if he is guilty.

Haystack - 04 Mar 2014 00:17 - 37594 of 81564

Merkel shoves Holland's on red carpet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh5ZnYvfjrA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

goldfinger - 04 Mar 2014 03:14 - 37595 of 81564

Coppers searching 10 downing street for child porn on the IT systems. Oh dear Call me Dave.

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2014 08:22 - 37596 of 81564

No 10.

How much truth is there in birds of a feather flock together comes to mind?

======
I hear one of the cuckoos is calling again.

Where is the other one?

goldfinger - 04 Mar 2014 08:30 - 37597 of 81564

Hmm! Days after paedophilia scandal at No 10 uncovered, Daily Mail attacked Harman
04 Tuesday Mar 2014
Posted by Tom Pride

Look at this short timeline:

Feb 13th: a top adviser to David Cameron is arrested for offences related to paedophile images which were discovered at Number 10 Downing Street.

Feb 18th: the Daily Mail begins its attacks on senior Labour figures for their links to a long-time defunct paedophile organisation.

Is it only me thinks this whole Daily Mail campaign is starting to look suspiciously like a damage limitation exercise on behalf of the Tory Party?

.

Related articles by Tom Pride:

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2014 08:36 - 37598 of 81564

Is it true The Daily Mail is being going to rename itself The Tory Pride?

I think it is a rag.

But Camoron was a close friend of and had him as an adviser.

Wasn't Andy Coulson one of those.


If it came to court do you think Cameron will be a character witness.
-----------------

Seems that Russia is retreating a little.

V. lucky yesterday, had widened my stop losses and bought!

Also lost about 3 stone in weight as well.

Which way to-day.

MaxK - 04 Mar 2014 08:39 - 37599 of 81564

Porn czar has porn sites on computer.

Is this supposed to be news?

cynic - 04 Mar 2014 08:39 - 37600 of 81564

as i have posted elsewhere ......
it will be a complete stand-off
crimea will probably join russia - i guess it doesn't already "belong"
ukraine may of may not partition along ethnic lines
the rest of the world will, quite rightly i think, stay on the sidelines, though there'll be all sorts of politicking behind the scenes

cynic - 04 Mar 2014 08:46 - 37601 of 81564

panorama last night was very interesting
surprised that the usual suspects aren't jumping up and down about it, but only extracting the bits that suit their mindset as is their norm

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2014 08:48 - 37602 of 81564

The oracle has written words of wisdom!

8-)

MaxK - 04 Mar 2014 08:48 - 37603 of 81564

goldfinger - 04 Mar 2014 09:00 - 37604 of 81564

4 March 2014 Last updated at 00:17
Cameron aide arrested in 'child abuse imagery' inquiry

Patrick Rock resigned as deputy head of the policy unit last month
One of David Cameron's aides has been arrested on suspicion of an offence "relating to child abuse imagery", Downing Street has said.

Patrick Rock, 62, resigned as the deputy head of the policy unit on 12 February.

Number 10 said it had been made aware of a potential offence and referred the matter to the National Crime Agency, which arrested Mr Rock at his home a few hours later on 13 February.

The NCA has not confirmed the arrest.

A Downing Street spokesman said that following Mr Rock's arrest, it "arranged for officers to come into Number 10 [to] have access to all IT systems and offices they considered relevant".

The prime minister was immediately informed and kept updated throughout, he said.

'Party's upper echelons'
He added: "This is an ongoing investigation so it would not be appropriate to comment further, but the prime minister believes that child abuse imagery is abhorrent and that anyone involved with it should be properly dealt with under the law."

BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said Mr Rock had been a fixture in the upper echelons of the Conservative Party for three decades, initially working for Margaret Thatcher, and was brought back into Downing Street by David Cameron in 2011.

As deputy head of the policy unit, he was one of a number of officials who had been working on policies to rid the internet of child abuse, our correspondent said.

Mr Rock was involved in preparations for a summit last year, working with the NCA, at which leading companies agreed to make it as difficult as possible to find images of abuse on their search engines.

Fred1new - 04 Mar 2014 09:02 - 37605 of 81564



Another bottom for Manuel and Dreams!

goldfinger - 04 Mar 2014 09:02 - 37606 of 81564

Cyners panorama only confirmed what I have been saying all along and what you selectively chose to ignore and not read.

goldfinger - 04 Mar 2014 09:13 - 37607 of 81564

Guido Fawkes turning on the Tories, thats very unlike him..............

MARCH 4TH, 2014

Why are We Only Hearing About Rock Arrest Now?

Patrick Rock is one of the most powerful people you have never heard of, serving as the PM’s fixer in Downing Street. Rock and Dave go way back, they worked together as special advisers in the Home Office under the progressive days of Michael Howard. The story goes that on the day John Smith died they went drinking in the Two Chairmen, where they “both agreed that Blair coming meant that we [Conservatives] would be f**ked.” He was almost a Tory MP too, fighting and losing in Portsmouth South in 1984… to Mike Hancock. Rock had been working under the radar at Downing Street since 2011, where his crowning achievement was accidentally leaking private documents to a photographer. Among his responsibilities were drafting the government’s proposals on internet porn filters. ‘Research’ of which seems his most obvious get out of jail card – the Pete Townshend defence…

It seems Downing Street were first made aware of the situation and called the cops on Rock themselves, three weeks ago. Unusually it has taken weeks for the arrest of one of the Prime Minister’s closest advisers to become public. In news management terms we have had in the intervening period Harriet Harman’s well known historic NCCL / Paedophile Information Exchange links dredged up in the Mail. This was after Rock was nicked but before it was made public… by James Chapman, in the Mail.

required field - 04 Mar 2014 09:17 - 37608 of 81564

Euhh...shouldn't the Ukraine be a little more important than the sicko stuff ?....

cynic - 04 Mar 2014 09:18 - 37609 of 81564

ah you are being quite selective too :-)
i'll contribute a bit more later, but only succinctly as is my wont

a little starter
edwina was positively neanderthal, though the point she made about people using credit like it isn't real money (i know people like that too!) had some or even considerable validity

the woman who wanted to keep her existing house and smoke and run a car at least didn't just whinge ..... she got herself a second job to enable her to meet her debts and live with the things she wanted and to feed herself without the help of the local foodbank

the younger chap who also got himself out of trouble by eventually getting a job in a local bar .... but he shouldn't have been put in dire straights anyway, if i remeber correctly

the benefits system that screws up too often (i'm afraid it is inevitable sometimes), wrongly depriving people of their benefit .... although rectified eventually, it imposes impossible financial strain in the interim

the overall problem has been growing for an awful lot longer than just the last 2/3years so no, you can't just conveniently lay all the blame on the present crew

===================

more to follow in due course :-)
Register now or login to post to this thread.