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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2014 09:00 - 37860 of 81564

MaxK - 08 Mar 2014 09:24 - 37861 of 81564

lol, good one Fred :-)

required field - 08 Mar 2014 11:51 - 37862 of 81564

I see that "The bus pass Elvis party" has beaten "The Lib-Dems".....it just shows doesn't it.....what a cracking party they are.....I mean...how do you vote for them ?.....

aldwickk - 08 Mar 2014 14:25 - 37863 of 81564

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26452298

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2014 15:04 - 37864 of 81564

They are a back up group for the Kipper party!

ahoj - 08 Mar 2014 15:33 - 37865 of 81564

I think Russia has an upper hand in all aspects, mainly that people in Ukraine will have a more secure future.

None of the countries which removed their leaders has a better situation. Start from Iran, Iraq, to Bosnia, Algeria, ... to .... Egypt.

So, it will not be better for the country, for their people and for the world.

Haystack - 08 Mar 2014 15:43 - 37866 of 81564

Ukraine is in a better position, in that there is not the same religious tensions.

ahoj - 08 Mar 2014 16:01 - 37867 of 81564

Yes, not religious tension, but sectorial tension!!! Turkey is becoming involved which makes the situation more difficult later.


All these extreme right and nationalist groups are not fighting against each other YET, mainly because each one hopes it will run the country after the election. I think the problem will show itself after the election and the whole Europe will regret for taking side over there.

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2014 16:34 - 37868 of 81564

Ahoj,

Germany (Hitler), Italy (The Mousse), Spain(Franco) , Portugal (Salzaar),, Russia (Stalin) to some degree), Romania (Nicolae Ceaușescu), Greece etc........

Before looking at Latin American countries.

But the bear still squeezes.

RF.

Remember.

The Elvis party has the loony right as the back up band with Cash as its leading instrumentalist.

Could even have a haze as a competing soloist!

cynic - 08 Mar 2014 17:53 - 37869 of 81564

will the present crew in ukraine actually allow a fair election?
don't be surprised if russia gets its paw in there either

MaxK - 08 Mar 2014 17:58 - 37870 of 81564

Who are the new crew, where did they come from, who appointed them?

We know where the Russian side came from, but who's the new techcrat crowd purporting to represent the Ukrainians?

Haystack - 08 Mar 2014 18:17 - 37871 of 81564

Elections are scheduled. The parliament has not really changed. They voted a new prime minister in and voted the president out. The new members of the government are people with previous experience of government. Even the previous president's supporters in parliament voted for constitutional change by over 300 out of 450 deputies. That is over the 2/3 majority that is required. The previous president never got even close to that sort of figure. It should be a reasonably peaceful transition.

aldwickk - 08 Mar 2014 18:25 - 37872 of 81564

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26487092

required field - 08 Mar 2014 19:08 - 37874 of 81564

Ahoj and Haystack...NOBODY should agree with an invasion....the Russian leadership have pointed a gun at the Ukraine.....It is UNACCEPTABLE THAT ANY COUNTRY SHOULD BEHAVE LIKE THEY HAVE !....why didn't the Crimea vote to join the Russian Federation before this ?.....the West is a pain in the neck as well, l the way I see things....Politicians just want everybody to go back to watching TV....X factor, Eastenders, brushing everything under the carpet...me.... I want to ship what's needed to resistance out there...(if there is any)...HOW CAN THEY STAGE OLYMPIC GAMES IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES ?....it is a disgrace that they have not been cancelled....

required field - 08 Mar 2014 19:19 - 37875 of 81564

It could be that this Malaysian aircraft has been the victim of a bombing...terrorist attack....terrible....never complain about airline security !...the more there is, the better for all of us !...

Haystack - 08 Mar 2014 19:23 - 37876 of 81564

The Crimea was part of Russie prior to 1954, so the population are ethnic Russian speakers. They would never have voted to go with Ukraine. Until the current problems they were an autonomous, self governing state, but part of Ukraine.

required field - 08 Mar 2014 19:31 - 37877 of 81564

B.......ks.....English is spoken throughout the world...does that mean it should all be part of the UK.......? The Ukraine does not have the military might to fight an oppressor like their neighbour....in fact, all this is : is Putin flexing military muscle...perhaps because he himself is under pressure from generals.....menace to the world these people....

required field - 08 Mar 2014 19:34 - 37878 of 81564

I fear that the Ukraine does not have the stomach for a fight.....that is the reality and the UN for all its huffing and puffing would prefer to forget this episode...sad...very sad...

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2014 19:34 - 37879 of 81564

Ship to Ukraine and Germany oil. gas, raw materials and find a market for their exports. That will take time and time and time again.


Russia's energy exports are huge. The country sends more than 7 million barrels of oil a day to the world markets -- a number roughly equal to what the United States imports. While a disruption of that size may be temporarily covered by production increases from other countries and by tapping reserves, the impact on oil prices would likely be crippling for the global economy.

Russia's energy exports are huge. The country sends more than 7 million barrels of oil a day to the world markets -- a number roughly equal to what the United States imports. While a disruption of that size may be temporarily covered by production increases from other countries and by tapping reserves, the impact on oil prices would likely be crippling for the global economy.

For the Russians, the trade in oil -- and to a lesser extent natural gas -- earns the country 70% of its $515 billion in annual export revenue and accounts for 52% of the federal budget, according to the U.S. Energy information Administration.
Because of this, it's thought that any sanctions that might be imposed on the country for its adventures in Ukraine would be limited in scope and exclude oil or gas.
"Disruption to energy trade would be in neither side's interest," analysts at Capital Markets wrote in a note Monday. "We suspect that any Western sanctions will only target individuals, and political and cultural links, rather than trade."

As such, the surge in oil prices Monday is being viewed as temporary.


Related: How the markets should read the Ukraine crisis
Natural gas is a slightly different story. Europe currently gets about 25% of its natural gas from Russia. That gas is used to produce electricity, heat homes, and in the making of fertilizer and cement.

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The only thing the West can do is to gradually work its way to independence of Russia, increase slowly any economic sanctions it can tighten up integration of Europe and the migration of money through it and London to cease allowing itself to be the money laundering capital of the world.

IE integration of tax, financial, defence policies and foreign policies with EU, American, Canada and Australia etc. (some of the common wealth countries.)

Battles are won by economics not guns and bullets.

The hope one may have is Putin could be removed or die. Takes time, but Stalin had a tight grip at one time.

The greatest weapon against Putin is ongoing public information against his regime through the internet etc..

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