Get real Stan. Leadership is about leading, not continually being undermined, so it's totally natural to delegate to people who are compliant and not defiant.

If anyone needs to get real H .. it isn't me.

harry when you have a team who will not ask questions then the only thing left is a down hill spiral . no matter how good some one is you need a open book for any one to question . or go to the wall

remember the labour party thought FRED GOODWIN was a great banker .
we now know that the down fall came because no one was allowed to question is power.

Questions are fine, T, but the final strategy decisions are down to AH-O, which is what he gets paid for and once those decisions are made, his delegated management team are expected to carry them out, with a certain amount of autonomy within their own departments. This isn't a workers collective, it's a corporate management team with the CEO at the top!

Sadly your mouth seems bigger then your ears and your brain H.

So you don't agree with my interpretation of management structure or you don't like management? (and I don't type with my mouth!)

The point I'm trying to get across is that not just "one" person in an organisation know's everything.

stan quite correct it leeds to the down fall and always has .
just look at RBS he thought he was god .
has for the ceo at this bank the man as never done anything .
if he as post it because i can not find anything all he is good at is sacking the
bank staff .and giving out money to the directors

and the SP tells you the city boys do not like him and avoiding the stock .why

An article for you boys - UK 2012 -Time To Change The Record :-)

rbs now only 3p lower than lloys. hester is a banker we have a shop keeper

I worked for RBS (not in a part of the business that caused the crash I hasten to add)....

Fred deserves to lose his knighthood for 2 reasons.

1) He became too egocentric and arrogant and surrounded himself with yes men who were terrified (I mean terrified) of him.

2) He wasn't properly qualified to do the job (as were pretty much none of the other senior executives in the UK banking sector).

But the regulation of the banking sector was a disgrace in how lax it was. The regulators themselves are just civil servants - the FSA doesn't pay the salaries to

just read that in the tele it was for you harry

just sold my last lot of lloys shares at time11.44 amount 67992 at 31.49p

Cheers T! Always good to hear your moderate stance on things! ;o)
Just for the record, I have worked for Aviva (ex Norwich Union) but I wouldn't even suggest that my time there had any bearing on their overall profitability, or not!!!

harry all i will say is good luck to you.

Ditto, T. We are different personalities, but with the same aim!

harry hope you are watching sky news

Just doesn't seem to want to go any higher!!!