Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

William Hill have now given Theresa May better odds than Boris.

William Hill wasn't one of those who had 'remain' as favourites were they?.

Well we know how good the bookies are on political matters. I am just listening to Gideon on Bloomberg. Very good and rational discussion. When he wants to be good, he is very good. I seem to remember that on my school report when at primary. Unforunately, I wasn't good most of the time.

The average across all bookies is

Boris 6/4
May 7/4
Fox 16/1
Rees-Mogg 6/1

Soon she will be way ahead. She has been using the Conservative whips to encourage support.

Look at the bottom of the page

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-conservative-leader

For Gods sake Haystack you banged on and on about the odds on remain and they were totally wrong .

As a Conservative Party member, I will vote for Theresa May despite being a big fan of Boris.

With Gove not standing I would like to see Rees-Mogg lead the Tories.
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Me too Hays, but because she sat on the fence for so long before she stated she was voting remain, Boris will swing it. Next in line if Boris fails imo.

I'm not a fan of Theresa May (7/5) and so I couldn't vote for her.

When it comes down to the last two, I could vote in order of choice for 1. Boris Johnson (13/8), 2. Michael Gove (80/1) and 3. Jeremy Hunt (51/1)

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-prime-minister

I see my MP, Andrea Leadsom (69/5), is a possibility. Because of his shocking outsider odds, I ought to put her in my top three instead of Michael Gove. If Andrea doesn't get voted in for the PM's job, I do think she will end up as being the next Chancellor. She doesn't speak out negatively against anyone so I think she might be a 'cert' for being picked by whoever does get it. Undoubtedly, I do think she will be one of the top three 'key members' of the next government, being the PM, the Deputy Leader and the Chancellor.

re - Theresa May for PM

But she is injecting ....... insulin, I do not see her healthy enough for that job and already 59 years old.

I am for Boris, we need someone of younger age an vision for the future

I can see some trying the same trick as when Mrs Thatcher resign and put forward John Major, a big mistake on my opinion, with some years lost on the process.

Even Thatcher realised too late that Major was a mistake.

There is only 7 years between May and Boris.

I think the Tory's and Labour should join together, I thought cameron
and Harriet Harperson appeared together in the ref debate, they looked quite
compatible, and on top of that Blair was cameron's hero, and have very similar
political views.

So it would save a lot of bother for Labour to just join up with the Tory's..

Rees Moggy, steely intellect...doesent deal in bullshit, clear and concise.


it would make a pleasent change from the usual puff merchants.

Absolutely, and a respected MP, not many of them about.
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h/t to cass across the road;



The text of Farage's EU parliament speech:



"Isn’t it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign go get Britain out of the European Union, you all laughed at me. Well, I have to say, you’re not laughing now, are you?

And the reason you’re so upset, the reason you’re so angry, has been perfectly clear from all the angry exchanges this morning. You, as a political project, are in denial. You are in denial that your currency is failing.

Just look at the Mediterranean. As a policy to impose poverty and the rest of the Mediterranean, you’ve done very well. And you are in denial over Mrs Merkel’s call last year for as many people as possible to cross the Mediterranean into the European Union. [It] has led to massive divisions within countries and between countries.

But the biggest problem you’ve got, and the main reason the United Kingdom voted the way that it did, is that you have, by stealth, by deception, without ever telling the truth to the British or the rest of the people’s of Europe, you have imposed upon them a political union.

And when the people in 2005 in the Netherlands and France voted against the political union, when they rejected the constitution, you simply ignored them and brought the Lisbon treaty in through the back door."

Mr Farage also warned that the UK would not be the last country to leave the EU.

"What happened last Thursday was a remarkable result. It was a seismic result, not just for British politics, but for European politics but perhaps even for global politics too, because what the little people did, what the ordinary people did, what the people who have been oppressed over the last few years and who have seen their living standards go down [did], they rejected the multinationals, they rejected the merchant banks, they rejected big politics. And they said, actually, we want our country back. We want our fishing waters back. We want our borders back. And we want to be an independent, self-governing, normal nation and that is what we have done and that is what must happen.

And in doing so we offer a beacon of hope to democrats across the rest of the European continent. I will make one prediction this morning; the United Kingdom will not be the last member state to leave the European Union."

Good old Nigel , l love Farage ,it's only because of him that we are out of the EU make no mistake about that .

From the Spectator

Tosh McDonald, the president of ASLEF, speaks. He hated Margaret Thatcher so much, he says, he would get up an hour early to enjoy an hour more of hatred, which may be the single most pointless piece of political activism I have ever heard a man boast of

The man should be knighted

and the beeb and the other vermin in the media exterminated (so to speak)

Theresa May would be a good PM. She has something of the aura of Thatcher about her.