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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 13 Mar 2014 10:01 - 38113 of 81564

good morning old chap ..... good to see you have recovered a sense of humour

Fred1new - 13 Mar 2014 10:02 - 38114 of 81564

GF,

When reading the Nigel case I am beginning to understand what attracts Manuel and the Hazy One to the torrid party!



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Strange if somebody on the dole "diddle" the his "unemployment claims" he would probably end up behind bars.

But nicking money as follows doesn't:
Strange !

But suppose it is because the private sector is more efficient and cost effective?




G4S repays UK government £108.9m after tagging scandal
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Troubled security firm G4S has agreed to repay £108.9m plus tax to the UK government after overcharging on contracts to tag offenders.

The payment is higher than the £24m offered last year by G4S, which faces a fraud inquiry into the tagging scandal.

The Ministry of Justice said that if criminal charges are brought, it "would consider" if further money is due.


Haystack - 13 Mar 2014 10:11 - 38115 of 81564

Nice trend

Update - Labour lead at 2
by YouGov in Politics
Thu March 13, 2014 6 a.m. GMT

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 12th March - Con 35%, Lab 37%, LD 9%, UKIP 13%;

goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 10:32 - 38116 of 81564

Yep just be on SKY,source reckon its a poll taken in Camorons own constituency and surrounding area.

Haystack - 13 Mar 2014 10:33 - 38117 of 81564

ICM poll - UKIP is the least liked and most disliked party.

cynic - 13 Mar 2014 10:38 - 38118 of 81564

the indication for ages was that labour had a 7% lead
however, it is more than likely that EM has thrown away a lot of support through his wishy-washy so-called policy on EU
a lot of labour voters and others will be and indeed are (per yesterday's wireless) extremely cross about that

goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 10:38 - 38119 of 81564

Well Hays and Cyners says their are no jobs for Labours new work programme for under 25s........whats this then.........


Job Vacancies Approach 800,000 But North-South Divide Remains

The number of advertised job vacancies grew by 3.1% between December 2013 and January 2014, with the total number of available jobs across the UK now at 768,104 and expected to exceed 800,000 by the end of February 2014, according to research by Adzuna.co.uk seen by the Welfare News Service (WNS).

The headline figure represent a 14% increase on this time 12 months ago and research suggests that the apparent rise in advertised job vacancies is at least partly due to a strengthening manufacturing sector, which now employs around 2.5 million people across the country.

> Although the the apparent rise in advertised job vacancies in my Jobcentre appears to be because there are so many self-employed, commission-based non-jobs.

In particular, significant growth in the UK’s car industry accounted for 10,012 advertised vacancies in January 2014 – triple the number advertised in January 2013 and experts predict that UK car production will reach record levels by 2017, creating even more jobs. The UK’s largest car manufacturer, Nissan, has started production on a new factory in Sunderland, providing jobs for more than 7,000 people.

> For some people. It’s generally understood locally that you have no chance at all of getting a job at Nissan if you’re aged over 30.

And we’d better hope that Nissan don’t decide they can make more profits elsewhere in the world and up sticks, thereby creating a domino effect amongst their suppliers.

I never feel putting all your eggs in one basket is a good idea, but it keeps happening. A few years ago, call centres were the way ahead for the region – until they decided to relocate overseas.

Andrew Hunter, co-founder of Adzuna, said:

“Manufacturing will play a key role in the rejuvenation of the British economy. It will help to increase the productivity of the country’s labour force, and help us catch up with our overseas competitors. The Bank of England has cited that greater economic productivity is needed to validate wage expectations, and manufacturing is one of the key vehicles to drive this forward.”

He added: “While the booming car industry is fuelling vacancy growth around the UK, the real future of the UK’s manufacturing industry lies in new technology. Manufacturing techniques such as 3D printing could remove the need for many elements in supply chains, bringing large parts of production back to the UK and increase demand for skilled labour in the industry.”

Despite an increase in the number of available jobs in the UK, the North-South divide remains. Nine of the top ten cities to find a job in January were concentrated in the South, while seven of the worst ten cities to find a job were in the North.

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Cambridge is the easiest place to find work, according to Adzuna’s research, where jobs outnumber jobseeker’s four to one. This is in stark comparison to the Wirral where an average 27.28 people are applying for each job vacancy in the city.

Andrew Hunter said:

“It’s vital that government initiatives attempt to bridge the gaping North-South split in the jobs market. Encouraging manufacturing will have a positive effect on the whole economy, but it could further separate North from South. The North is home to British car manufacturing, and a collection of Jaguar Land Rover production plants are based in the Midlands. But our high-tech manufacturing plants are clustered in the South, with Cambridge and Guildford two key epicenters. It is this type of highly skilled manufacturing which we are re-shoring back to Britain. Once again, it will be the South that benefits the most.”

> So, no change there then.

Unemployed people looking for work will welcome news that the jobs market appears to be improving. However, the news for salary levels isn’t as positive.

> More advertised jobs does not necesserily mean more good jobs. It might – from my personal experience as someone looking for work – just mean more non-jobs, part-time work and zero-hour contracts. Remove all those and what do your figures show then ?

I certainly haven’t noticed many jobs advertised in the car industry locally

The average advertised salary fell by 1% to a 17-month low in January 2014 and now stands at £32,011 per annum, according to Adzuna.

Figures show that wages have fallen 4.6% since January 2013, which in monetary terms equates to a drop of £2,181 in advertised salaries, Adzuna say.

Click to download the research by Adzuna.

Source – Welfare News Service, 27 Feb 2014

http://welfarenewsservice.com/job-vacancies-approach-800000-north-south-divide-remains-wages-falling/

cynic - 13 Mar 2014 10:43 - 38120 of 81564

sticky - if there are so many job vacancies - and perhaps there are, though the north/south divide is no figment - then why aren't more people applying for them?

even part time or zero hour contracts are surely better than bugger all, though there is the caveat that >16 hours pw will impact benefit claims


PS - please please try to paraphrase = less "yardage" on the thread

Haystack - 13 Mar 2014 11:00 - 38121 of 81564

What a stupid chart of places where there are jobs. The two Iists are a comparison of where there are high tech jobs that need lots of training and skill. If you could remove such jobs, you might get sensible lists.

MaxK - 13 Mar 2014 11:08 - 38122 of 81564

goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 11:08 - 38123 of 81564

Ohhhhhhh stop being petty Hays.

A jobs a job........and not an apprenticeship as defined by the Tory boys ie, slave job clubs.

goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 11:14 - 38124 of 81564

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goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 11:16 - 38125 of 81564

Remember Tories racked up more debt in four years than labour did in 13 years, dont be fooled by the Tory propoganda.

Haystack - 13 Mar 2014 11:19 - 38126 of 81564

How long now before the Polls show Conservatives ahead of Labour?

Milibland did a good job of reminding people that he is an idiot with his definitely, possibly, maybe referendum.

cynic - 13 Mar 2014 11:28 - 38127 of 81564

i shan't get dragged into your silly swamp, but as far as i can see, EM was not really proposing anything very different from what is already on the table

as many real businessmen have already pointed out, companies can and will only take on new staff or even apprentices when their business warrants it, or when the prospects strongly imply that they will have a staff shortage imminently

Fred1new - 13 Mar 2014 12:14 - 38128 of 81564

Bye Bye Manuel

MaxK - 13 Mar 2014 12:20 - 38129 of 81564



Only Lib Dems and Ukip consistent on Europe, says Nick Clegg

Deputy PM says Labour's adoption of similar position on EU referendum does not make Lib-Lab coalition more likely



Rowena Mason, political correspondent


theguardian.com, Thursday 13 March 2014 11.37 GMT



Lorely Burt, the MP for Solihull, wears a Nigel Farage mask at the Lib Dem spring conference on Sunday. Photograph: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images


Nick Clegg has suggested he has more in common with Nigel Farage than Ed Miliband when it comes to his position on Europe, even though the Liberal Democrats and Labour now have an almost identical policy on calling an EU referendum only if there is a transfer of powers to Brussels.

The deputy prime minister said the Lib Dems and Ukip at least have consistently held but opposing views, and accused Labour and the Conservatives of switching between different positions.

He said Miliband's new stance on the EU did not make the prospect of a Lib-Lab coalition any more likely.

Miliband's decision to make clear a referendum is unlikely to happen under Labour in the next parliament undermines Clegg's argument that the Lib Dems are the only pro-European party.



more: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/13/lib-dems-ukip-labour-europe-nick-clegg

goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 14:13 - 38130 of 81564

Whos Clegg trying to kid, we dont want his poxy party we have an overall majority with 38% of the polls and weve consistently polled that or over for last 18 months.

If we need help this time all we will need is a few of the OTHERS.

cynic - 13 Mar 2014 14:16 - 38131 of 81564

heaven forfend that anyone should suggest that several years back labour rigged - sorry, re-jigged - the constituency boundaries to skew voting in their favour :-)

even so, i have my doubts that this poll-generated 38% would actually give an overall majority

goldfinger - 13 Mar 2014 15:28 - 38132 of 81564

Ohhhhhh yes it would.

Ive proved it on here before, but dont forget Labour normaly have 39% or 40%, so nah nah ,nah nah nah.
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