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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

aldwickk - 29 Nov 2010 18:30 - 3822 of 6906

Jerry Lee Lewis , his bride was 13 year's old.

Lewis's third wife, Myra Gale Brown. She was Lewis's first cousin once removed and only 13 years old

Fred1new - 29 Nov 2010 18:34 - 3823 of 6906

Y,

Probably, the ones who are thought as having the most to gain from the action.

In The Land of the B - 29 Nov 2010 21:42 - 3824 of 6906

The assassination was carried out by one Greg Hayes in a futile attempt to tarnish the image of Meir Dagan.
Needless to say, the former's plot backfired as all his efforts do and Mr. Dagan's reputation has been further enhanced without lifting a finger to strike down Israel's enemies.

Haystack - 29 Nov 2010 23:34 - 3825 of 6906

21 international human rights organizations have called for fresh international moves to lift the siege on Gaza immediately and without any conditions attached.

The organizations in a report to be published on Tuesday said that Israel's measures to "ease" the siege on Gaza under international pressures did not change anything in the lives of the civilian population of the Strip.

The non-government organizations, including Amnesty International, and the Norwegian Refugee Council, said that no enough construction materials were allowed into Gaza.

They said that only "minor" progress was made in the freedom of movement for civilians while noting no tangible development on Gaza exports.

In The Land of the B - 30 Nov 2010 09:39 - 3826 of 6906

When is a nodding donkey the same thing as a parrot?



When it's a haystack.

Haystack - 30 Nov 2010 10:29 - 3827 of 6906

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11868589

Israel's eased blockade 'still crippling' Gaza

There has been "little improvement" for people in Gaza since Israel announced it was easing its economic blockade of the territory six months ago.

That is the verdict of a new report by aid agencies and rights groups working inside the Palestinian territory.

A ban on most exports from Gaza is "crippling" the economy, they say.

The report, "Dashed Hopes: Continuation of the Gaza Blockade", was compiled by 21 different groups, including Oxfam, Amnesty and Save the Children.

"Only a fraction of the aid needed has made it to the civilians trapped in Gaza by the blockade," said Jeremy Hobbs, Director of Oxfam International.

"Israel's failure to live up to its commitments and the lack of international action to lift the blockade are depriving Palestinians in Gaza of access to clean water, electricity, jobs and a peaceful future," Mr Hobbs added.

The report says there has been an increase in imports such as food and consumer goods but that import levels are still only just over one-third of what they were before 2007 when the blockade was originally tightened.

It also says only a tiny fraction of the construction materials needed to rebuild Gaza are being allowed in.

In June, Israel said it would allow in construction material for projects carried out by organisations such as the United Nations. But the report says Israel has so far approved only 7% of the UN's reconstruction projects in Gaza.

It says at the current rate it will take decades to carry out the UN's housing and schools projects in the strip.

Earlier this month the Director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in Gaza, John Ging, told the BBC there had been "no material change" for people living in Gaza since the "so-called easing".

Mr Ging accused Israel of ignoring the demands of the international community to fully lift the blockade.

The report stresses that virtually all exports remain banned, having a devastating effect on Gaza's economy.

Janet Symes, Christian Aid's Head of Middle East Region, said that "with the continued ban on exports, Gaza is crippled economically".

"How can it stand on its own two feet? People want jobs to make a living in a dignified manner and not exist on handouts."

The only exports currently allowed out of Gaza are a limited number of flowers and strawberries.

Responding to the report Major Guy Inbar - a spokesman for the Israeli office which controls crossings into Gaza (Cogat) - said in a statement: "The claims of the organisations, as they appear in the report, are biased and distorted and therefore mislead the public."

He said the number of trucks entering Gaza from Israel every day had increased by 92% this June.

The United Nations says this is still only a fraction of what was being allowed into Gaza before 2007.

Israel originally tightened its blockade of Gaza in 2007 after the Islamist movement Hamas came to power. Israel, the US and the EU regard Hamas as a terrorist organisation.

Over the past decade Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into Israel, although that number has declined dramatically since Operation Cast Lead, Israel's major offensive in Gaza almost two years ago

Gausie - 30 Nov 2010 10:45 - 3828 of 6906

The only exports to leave Gaza are flowers and strawberries?

Rubbish. They still lead the world in the unwelcome export of live mortar rounds and high explosive rockets.

Haystack - 30 Nov 2010 11:32 - 3829 of 6906

It is Israel that fires more rounds into Gaza than Gaza ever fires into Israel. One Thai farmer in Israel is the only casualty compared to hundreds in Gaza causedy Israel.

The reality is that Israel is suppressing Gaza and holding it captive because its population democratically elected a government that Israel does not like. It must be almost the only example in the whole world. Israel is rushing around the West Bank arresting followers of the same government in Gaza in case they elect it in the WB as well. Once the silly peace process breaks up then the WB will become like Gaza.

yuff - 30 Nov 2010 13:27 - 3830 of 6906

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Tck4nHPT0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h2XBZz88VE

Poor old England.

Haystack - 02 Dec 2010 12:37 - 3831 of 6906

The UN has underlined that the situation in Gaza Strip was still catastrophic and that one and a half million people including 800,000 children were living as captives in the Strip due to the siege imposed on it.

John Ging, the UNRWA director of operations, said in a press statement in New York on Wednesday that 80% of Gaza population depends on relief assistance while 70% of the population before the siege used to depend on themselves.

"There is no economy, anyone wishing to make something does not find the necessary (raw) material to do so," he added.

Ging said the Strip urgently needs 100 new schools, but restrictions by Israel dictated the building of only six schools.

Thousands of houses are still destroyed while they were previously crammed with inhabitants prior to the devastating Israeli air raids in the last war on Gaza, the UNRWA official said, adding that 90% of Gaza water is not suitable for human consumption.

Ging asked senior world decision makers to visit Gaza to get acquainted with the disastrous conditions there as a result of the four-year-old Israeli siege.

Fred1new - 02 Dec 2010 13:43 - 3832 of 6906

Perhaps nothing was learnt from the

"Warsaw Ghetto


The wall of ghetto in Warsaw, being constructed by German order in August 1940. Taken on Świętokrzyska Street from the "Aryan side" (Marszałkowska Street).

The Warsaw Ghetto was established by the German Governor-General Hans Frank on October 16, 1940. Frank ordered Jews in Warsaw and its suburbs rounded up and herded into the Ghetto. At this time, the population in the Ghetto was estimated to be 400,000 people, about 30%[1] of the population of Warsaw; however, the size of the Ghetto was about 2.4%[2] of the size of Warsaw. The ghetto was split into two areas, the "small ghetto", generally inhabited by richer Jews and the "large ghetto", where conditions were more difficult; the two ghettos were linked by a single footbridge.

The Nazis then closed the Warsaw Ghetto from the outside world on November 16, 1940, by building a wall, topped with barbed wire, and deploying armed guards.



It sums up Man's Inhumanity to MAN.

'Many and sharp the num'rous ills
Inwoven with our frame!
More pointed still we make ourselves
Regret, remorse, and shame!
And Man, whose heav'n-erected face
The smiles of love adorn, -
Man's inhumanity to man


Makes countless thousands mourn!

Robert Burns

aldwickk - 02 Dec 2010 14:15 - 3833 of 6906

Have heard better.

Chris Carson - 02 Dec 2010 19:31 - 3834 of 6906

Wonder who's wife he was shaxxxxg when he came up with that one?

In The Land of the B - 03 Dec 2010 22:06 - 3835 of 6906

Typical anti-semitic propaganda.
These people say they are not criticising Jews, only Israelis, but note how they compare the Jews and Nazis to manipulate sentiment.
For those who don't know and can't recognise the Goebbels style propaganda of freddie fried brains and hay parrot consider:
The Nazis imprisoned the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto trying to starve as many to death as possible prior to murdering the survivors.
The Israelis restrict access to the Gaza Strip and attack specific targets (and yes as in all wars tragically some innocents suffer) because they are trying to prevent weapons and material from getting in, rockets from being fired out, and suicide bombers from entering Israel to slaughter people.
And these morons like to twist and distort because they cannot see reality and are consumed with hatred. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD BE OBJECTIVE AND RATIONAL.

cynic - 04 Dec 2010 10:42 - 3836 of 6906

a sidetrack, but perhaps interesting to islamist followers .....

at my conference in kenya this week, there was a young (early 20s) girl in traditional hijab who hailed from egypt .... not only was it interesting (i thought) that she was there at all and on her own, but that she was a qualified mechanical engineer .... she said there had been a few girls on her course (probably unlike uk!) and concurred that the koran (true islam) promoted the concept that women should be well-educated ..... she agreed that saudi and the like were oppressive (regressive?) in this respect, which says plenty, though not much that we did not already know ..... interestingly, she added that the koran (or perhaps just islamic tradition) reckons that women should be married by 23/24 - she was not following that!

fahel - 07 Dec 2010 14:34 - 3837 of 6906

No War for Israel in Iran - Keep Americans Safe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qxzZY4JycY

fahel - 07 Dec 2010 14:36 - 3838 of 6906

Brazil Recognizes Palestinian state along 1967 borders

http://fosna.org/content/brazil-recognizes-palestinian-state-along-1967-borders

Fred1new - 07 Dec 2010 14:48 - 3839 of 6906

Cutting from the above.

Interesting to see a major economic force beginning to become engaged.

"Brazil Recognizes Palestinian state along 1967 borders
Date:
4 December 2010

by L Park



In a letter sent to Mahmoud Abbas by Brazilian President Luiz Inio Lula da Silva, the Brazilian government has declared its recognition of a Palestinian State along the 1967 armistice lines. The Brazilian Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted the announcement in both Portuguese and English on its website yesterday.




" on 1 December 2010, the Brazilian Government has recognized the Palestinian State based on the existing borders in 1967.


 
 "The recognition has taken place following negotiations by the Palestinian side and a letter sent by President Abbas to President Lula, last 24 November, in which he requested the recognition.
 



"The initiative is in accordance with Brazils historical willingness to contribute to the peace process between Israel and Palestine, whose direct negotiations are currently on hold, and it is in line with UN resolutions, which have demanded an end to the occupation of Palestinian territories and the construction of an independent State within the borders of 4 June 1967. "




Haystack - 07 Dec 2010 14:50 - 3840 of 6906

Uruguay and Argentina have followed Brazil.

The deputy foreign minister of Uruguay has said that his country would recognize Palestine as an independent state by next year 2011.

He pointed out that Montevideo would open a diplomatic mission in Ramallah soon.

Argentina recognized Palestine as an independent state on 1967 borders on Monday only three days after a similar Brazilian step.

Haystack - 12 Dec 2010 22:58 - 3841 of 6906

John Ging, the director of UNRWA operations in the Gaza Strip, has said that the inhabitants of Gaza were still living in bad conditions as a result of the ongoing siege.

He said in a press statement on Sunday that 80% of the inhabitants depend on UNRWA's humanitarian and food assistance. He added that the unemployment rate is at its highest level.

Ging noted that 90% of Gaza water is polluted and not fit for human consumption while 80 million cubic meters of sewage water is daily poured into the sea.

Tens of thousands of houses, which were destroyed or damaged during the last Israeli war, were still waiting reconstruction, the international official said, adding that educational and health sectors were also facing big challenges.
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