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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

spitfire43 - 20 Jan 2009 22:22 - 3832 of 21973

Only trading very short term now, sometimes only a few hours if price goes my way, and tight stops in place. It's not the way I like trading, but I feel only option in todays market.

cynic - 21 Jan 2009 07:58 - 3833 of 21973

Strawbs ....i don't believe you will ever commit .... sorry to say, but you strike me as being like the ex vet girl currently appearing on the traders prog on tv - assume you know what and whom i mean

Falcothou - 21 Jan 2009 08:03 - 3834 of 21973

Seem to be on the precipice, belayed up by IBM after hours, lots of altitude sickness and a desire to go down, Obama failed to turn up with the oxygen

cynic - 21 Jan 2009 08:08 - 3835 of 21973

spitfire ... other than inner compulsion, there is no need to trade at all!

Strawbs - 21 Jan 2009 08:11 - 3836 of 21973

No. Actually I don't. I've done pretty well out of stocks on two occasions in the last fifteen years, being invested for periods of around four years throughout the tech boom and the commodities boom. Rest assurred I'll be back when prices are right, but at the moment markets are a gamblers den and I'm not a gambler. If you have the time and spare capital to gamble then I dare say you can make money. I have neither, and prefer to be a patient if perhaps boring investor.

Strawbs.

spitfire43 - 21 Jan 2009 08:13 - 3837 of 21973

cynic - which is why apart from a few trades I have mainly only traded indices for the last year.

steveo - 21 Jan 2009 21:27 - 3838 of 21973

Glad I stopped out, rebounded a bit today, Obama bounce or short positions being closed, either way bears have had a good run. Gold juniors in or about to be in production looking good to me now. CEY are going cheap as are HGM.

Gold to me looks like it is forming higher lows each time, if it fails to go below $800 in next month looks set for next phase up, government bonds are starting to lose their lustre as concerns over debt pile up, add in weakening currencies and the only way is up it would seem, unless deflation really is here to stay, but surely there will be alot of money flowing into the yellow metal soon.

The classic safe haven hasn't really taken off in dollar terms but for sterling holders it's been a beauty, sp's of juniors not reflected that this week.

2517GEORGE - 23 Jan 2009 10:01 - 3839 of 21973

As if things weren't difficult enough we will now have to sidestep co's likely to have rights issues, just a few I think may tap shareholders :- PRU, SL. KGF, GKN, RIO and TOMK aimo of course. Can anyone add possible candidates to my list.
2517

HARRYCAT - 23 Jan 2009 10:05 - 3840 of 21973

Are you sure about PRU? Broker upgraded it today to buy from hold. No mention of fund raising (though I know they are bidding for some of the AIG assets).

2517GEORGE - 23 Jan 2009 10:08 - 3841 of 21973

HC ---I don't know that any of my list will tap s/holders it's just my opinion.
2517

2517GEORGE - 23 Jan 2009 15:10 - 3842 of 21973

HC-------broker upgrade for PRU sp down 11%+.
2517

HARRYCAT - 23 Jan 2009 17:44 - 3843 of 21973

DOW 8000 level seems to be holding for the time being. Good for investors, perhaps not so good for the CFD/SB's.

Falcothou - 23 Jan 2009 20:49 - 3844 of 21973

Gone long Dax/ short FTSE only 110 between them when placed trade so hoping for divergence, need patience but probably need a good headless chicken rally or Porsche escapade to get the Dax into hyperspace it used to trade at a 1000 point premium!

cynic - 24 Jan 2009 08:10 - 3845 of 21973

interesting to note that Dow bounced off 7900 support and ultimately managed to hold quite comfortably above 8000

cynic - 25 Jan 2009 10:02 - 3846 of 21973

tomorrow could be interesting ..... papers have been full of doom and gloom for banks and retailers and uk economy in general ...... apparently 70% of trades with (scumbags) TDW last week was on the banks, with buyers outnumbering sellers 3:1 ..... i question whether that optimism will be well-founded .... i think not

HARRYCAT - 25 Jan 2009 11:22 - 3847 of 21973

The day traders must love it! Bit too risky for me though as an investment, as the future of the banks is still in question.
Wed is looking interesting with Int results from BSKYB & Vedanta, Trading statement from The Pru & a number of biggish Co's going ex-divi (including IG Gp).
Also US Unemployment Claims, US Crude Oil Inventories, US FOMC Statement, US Federal Funds Rate, all of which I expect to be worse than expected.
Sentiment is still negative, imo, but if you don't put your money in to equities (or similar), where do you put your cash? C & G B/Soc have just written to me & their best savings rate is 2.6% gross!!! Most accounts are sub 2%.

ThePublisher - 25 Jan 2009 12:59 - 3848 of 21973

"with buyers outnumbering sellers 3:1"

Might that be fund managers selling large holdings and three times as many general punters buying them up.

In other words the professionals being pessimistic and the amateurs optimistic.

TP

cynic - 25 Jan 2009 16:28 - 3849 of 21973

TP .... don't disagree with the sentiment at least .... personally, i remain short of LLOY (and a few other stocks) and am more than happy to stay so

goldfinger - 26 Jan 2009 04:52 - 3850 of 21973

Yep me too cyners.

short of WOS, BDEV, IAP, PRU, and Barclays.

long, POG, RRS.

goldfinger - 26 Jan 2009 10:10 - 3851 of 21973

Thats a devil, IG index not taking shorts on BDEV.........swines.
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