Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Perhaps nothing was learnt from the

"Warsaw Ghetto


The wall of ghetto in Warsaw, being constructed by German order in August 1940. Taken on Świętokrzyska Street from the "Aryan side" (Marszałkowska Street).

The Warsaw Ghetto was established by the German Governor-General Hans Frank on October 16, 1940. Frank ordered Jews in Warsaw and its suburbs rounded up and herded into the Ghetto. At this time, the population in the Ghetto was estimated to be 400,000 people, about 30%[1] of the population of Warsaw; however, the size of the Ghetto was about 2.4%[2] of the size of Warsaw. The ghetto was split into two areas, the "small ghetto", generally inhabited by richer Jews and the "large ghetto", where conditions were more difficult; the two ghettos were linked by a single footbridge.

The Nazis then closed the Warsaw Ghetto from the outside world on November 16, 1940, by building a wall, topped with barbed wire, and deploying armed guards.



It sums up Man's Inhumanity to MAN.

'Many and sharp the num'rous ills
Inwoven with our frame!
More pointed still we make ourselves
Regret, remorse, and shame!
And Man, whose heav'n-erected face
The smiles of love adorn, -
Man's inhumanity to man

Makes countless thousands mourn!

Robert Burns

Have heard better.

Wonder who's wife he was shaxxxxg when he came up with that one?

Typical anti-semitic propaganda.
These people say they are not criticising Jews, only Israelis, but note how they compare the Jews and Nazis to manipulate sentiment.
For those who don't know and can't recognise the Goebbels style propaganda of freddie fried brains and hay parrot consider:
The Nazis imprisoned the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto trying to starve as many to death as possible prior to murdering the survivors.
The Israelis restrict access to the Gaza Strip and attack specific targets (and yes as in all wars tragically some innocents suffer) because they are trying to prevent weapons and material from getting in, rockets from being fired out, and suicide bombers from entering Israel to slaughter people.
And these morons like to twist and distort because they cannot see reality and are consumed with hatred. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD BE OBJECTIVE AND RATIONAL.

a sidetrack, but perhaps interesting to islamist followers .....

at my conference in kenya this week, there was a young (early 20s) girl in traditional hijab who hailed from egypt .... not only was it interesting (i thought) that she was there at all and on her own, but that she was a qualified mechanical engineer .... she said there had been a few girls on her course (probably unlike uk!) and concurred that the koran (true islam) promoted the concept that women should be well-educated ..... she agreed that saudi and the like were oppressive (regressive?) in this respect, which says plenty, though not much that we did not already know ..... interestingly, she added that the koran (or perhaps just islamic tradition) reckons that women should be married by 23/24 - she was not following that!

No War for Israel in Iran - Keep Americans Safe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qxzZY4JycY

Brazil Recognizes Palestinian state along 1967 borders

http://fosna.org/content/brazil-recognizes-palestinian-state-along-1967-borders

Cutting from the above.

Interesting to see a major economic force beginning to become engaged.

"Brazil Recognizes Palestinian state along 1967 borders
Date:
4 December 2010

by L Park



In a letter sent to Mahmoud Abbas by Brazilian President Luiz Inio Lula da Silva, the Brazilian government has declared its recognition of a Palestinian State along the 1967 armistice lines. The Brazilian Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted the announcement in both Portuguese and English on its website yesterday.




" on 1 December 2010, the Brazilian Government has recognized the Palestinian State based on the existing borders in 1967.


 
 "The recognition has taken place following negotiations by the Palestinian side and a letter sent by President Abbas to President Lula, last 24 November, in which he requested the recognition.
 



"The initiative is in accordance with Brazils historical willingness to contribute to the peace process between Israel and Palestine, whose direct negotiations are currently on hold, and it is in line with UN resolutions, which have demanded an end to the occupation of Palestinian territories and the construction of an independent State within the borders of 4 June 1967. "




Uruguay and Argentina have followed Brazil.

The deputy foreign minister of Uruguay has said that his country would recognize Palestine as an independent state by next year 2011.

He pointed out that Montevideo would open a diplomatic mission in Ramallah soon.

Argentina recognized Palestine as an independent state on 1967 borders on Monday only three days after a similar Brazilian step.

John Ging, the director of UNRWA operations in the Gaza Strip, has said that the inhabitants of Gaza were still living in bad conditions as a result of the ongoing siege.

He said in a press statement on Sunday that 80% of the inhabitants depend on UNRWA's humanitarian and food assistance. He added that the unemployment rate is at its highest level.

Ging noted that 90% of Gaza water is polluted and not fit for human consumption while 80 million cubic meters of sewage water is daily poured into the sea.

Tens of thousands of houses, which were destroyed or damaged during the last Israeli war, were still waiting reconstruction, the international official said, adding that educational and health sectors were also facing big challenges.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/our-lives-became-something-wed-never-dreamt-the-former-israeli-soldiers-who-have-testified-against-army-abuses-2154663.html?action=Gallery&ino=2

The Independent on Sunday published confessions made by former Israeli soldiers related to the Israeli army and serious war crimes committed against Gaza people.

Their confessions were taken from a book issued by Breaking the Silence organization. The book also includes testimonies against the Israeli army and pictures of Israeli soldiers who made the testimonies and confessions.

A former soldier from Givati brigade said that his brigade and another task force during the military operations in Gaza in 2008 knocked at the door of a Palestinian house and detonated it when they did not find an immediate response, which led to the killing of a lady as she was about to open the door. The woman was blown up into small pieces, he added.

The book cited another similar story about the killing of a UN female teacher in Khan Younis called Wafer Al-Daghma during an Israeli raid on her house in May 2008. Her husband was not present at the time.

Her husband Magdi Daghma said that when his wife heard the voices of soldiers, she ordered her three little children to go to the bedroom, put a head scarf over her head and went to open the door that were exploded by the troops outside.

The soldiers who narrated this story affirmed that one of the soldiers who participated in this attack burst into hysterical laughter when he saw the bloody scene and the horrible death of the Gazan mother.

The foreign ministers of the European Union's member countries are expected to discuss on Monday recognizing a Palestinian state on 1967 occupied land in the event no peace agreement was reached within a year.

European diplomatic sources said that the EU council is set to discuss a draft proposal prepared by Germany on recognition of an independent Palestinian state within one year.

Israeli official sources had expressed concern over the step, saying its endorsement would impede peace efforts, Hebrew media reported.

The ministry of health in Gaza warned Monday that 137 types of medicine and 150 of essential medical supplies are out of stock in Gaza, among those supplies are drugs used to treat cancer and kidney patients.

The ministry's pharmaceutical director is calling on the ministry's counterpart in Ramallah to release to the Gaza Strip the drugs it is withholding. Only 37 per cent of required medical supplies reached the Strip this year so far, he said.

Gaza health ministry public relations director Ahmed Al-Ashi assigned blame to Israel's four year blockade on the coastal enclave for the sharp shortage. Israeli forces have blocked urgent medical and humanitarian aid from being imported into the Strip.

Ashi called on the International Committee of the Red Cross, the World Health Organization, and human rights groups to take immediate intervention to provide Gazan people with necessary drugs.

In a constant battle to avoid surplus of unnecessary drugs, the ministry is appealing to donating countries and bodies to refer to Palestine's directory of medicines to cater to patients' requirements by contacting the ministry's pharmaceutical and international cooperation administrations.

The most needed medical supplies are ECG paper and drugs used for surgery, intensive care, anesthesia, respiration, childbirth, eye surgery, and more.

Israel's legislative commission approved Monday a new draft law that would deny Palestinian prisoners the right to lawyer visits for one year upon arrest in an attempt to tighten restrictions on those prisoners.

The amended law will afford power to Israeli courts to ban Palestinian prisoners from visits by their legal representatives for an entire year, while the present law allows this type of ban for three weeks only.

Israeli Internal Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovich brought a list of arguments to convince the Knesset's legislative committee to favor the law before it was approved. The draft has taken effect from the time it was passed.

With God on your side you don't need courts of law.

Humanity and decency should only be applied to my group!

What this debate needs is a wiki cable leak ,
Wonder if theres any to come out regarding the real uk diplomatic thoughts on the Israeli /Hamas situation , and if there is where do the uk authorities/government really stand away from the pr spin ,And even worse for Freddie boy and Haystack, what if the uk were even secretly involved in some major decisions behind the scenes ;

Are the uk saying one thing in their PR spin, but the reality is behind the scenes they think something totally diffferent?

Wiki leakes, illegal/immoral.? I dont know but interesting never the less ,

What this debate needs is a really big wiki leak, then Freddie boy and Haystack and the hamas supporters here might just see it from a different angle, but then again, maybe not, cant teach an old dog new tricks hey,

I think that any Wiki leaks might support Hamas's case. It would certainly weaken Israel's case as the US is funding Fatah and the PA with the result that they are collaborating with Israel against Hamas in the West Bank and against the Palestinian people. When this the current pointless peace talks stop soon, you can expect a major shift in the politics in the area.

Ah, Ruth - a breath of fresh air.
Don't know about an old dog, but it's impossible to turn a fanatic filled with hatred. It would be like trying to change the mind of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc.
Evil incarnate.
You can see by Uberfuhrer hayparrot's last post how he thinks Hamas and the Palestinian people are synonymous and Fatah, Israel, the US, the Liberal Democrats, Top Shop, and all evil reactionary capitalist running dogs are conspiring against the peace-loving everything is justified Hamas and all true believers everywhere blah blah blah - a real lover of terrorists, our sad, sad parrot.

I wouldn't include the capitalists, Liberal democrats etc. Hamas are not terrorists, they are the expression of the Palestinian people's struggle and resistance against a regime that has taken their land and continues to do so. I think you will find that Hamas takes a more prominent role in the region next year.

ah yes .... Mugabe's "war veterans" are similarly labelled