Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What does it mattter what he does with his money now He made it starting and running a successful business. He is now enjoying his money. Do you begrudge him his money? That looks like envy. Maybe you should look at sportsmen lik footballers. It is all market forces. The father of one of my son's fiends sold his business for £32m a few years ago and he put it into high value property. Good luck to him. He still works as the MD of the company that he sold out to. He is now worth £100m+.

Any way Hays he didnt make his money by starting up sports direct he was loaned private money from influential big wig freinds (some say underground crooks) and opened ski shops in London.

A very shady character imo............and others.

Tax authorities have little history on him.

OK yep you can say hes a self made man from middle class parents but theirs always a question mark over how when he received his starting capital.

Lets face it not a great example of an entrepeneur.

And its not what he does with his money that counts in his case, its where he got it from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh come now sticky!
unless you have something more substantive to attach to "shady money", then it matters not at all from whom he borrowed it
if he had none of his own, then he showed good business nous, and in any case, as in all walks of life in all sorts of matters, it's who you know - it's called networking nowadays, and it's up to you to make that work in your favour - aka business nous

You obviously have followed his past history Cyners.

Hes always being talked about as being a tax evader. But the authoritys cant nab him.................YET.

Are you saying youd take money from the like of the Kray twins and the like????

can't say i know anything at all about the chap
in that case, perhaps i misread the purpose of your post - always assuming that what you post about him is based on published fact or similar

that said, i re-read what you posted and you're clearly making up a story as you go along, based at best on supposition or even and quite probably, even less

It was Hays who led the debate in this direction.

Im still trying to find some moral conviction as to why 5 people (4 born with the spoon in ones mouth the other a very suspected dodgy character)should own more wealth than the poorest 20% in a mature civilised country like Britain.

Why not? Their money has been made or passed on due to death. Nothing wrong with inherited wealth. If you make money then why not pass it on to the next generation. Money is not done sacred thing It has no morality attached to it. It is like leaving BG someone a set of cufflink nks.

the politics of jealousy are singularly ugly, though you seem to subscribe to them
anyway fwiw, i repost what i wrote earlier .....

it would be at least as interesting to determine how many people these "5 richest families" employ in their enterprises and how many more are thus indirectly dependent upon them

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shall we revisit the bible and the parable of the talents?

Haystack - 17 Mar 2014 16:44 - 38346 of 38347

Why not? Their money has been made or passed on due to death....................ends

Exactly Hays and that why when labour take over control in 2015 we will change the tax system from one based on income to one based on assets and the re- distribution of wealth.

A far fairer and moral system.

Human atainment will be based on personal ability not inheritance.

Of course they won't do that. Labour always say silly things like that, but never do them.

They are this time...... an increase on all.

1.Council Tax bands G@H to be increased at least 25%

2. Mansion Tax on Houses capital value £2 million

3. Tax on public school boys and certain universitys

4. Banker tax on either A, bonus or B, taxable salary

5. Tax on Gentlemens clubs.

6. Tax increase on whiskey brandy and rum.

7. Tax on private hospitals.

8. Tax on private dentists and doctor practises

9. Top rate of tax 50% on 150,000

10. Tax on equestrian events and some golf clubs.

All this to take place in the first 5 years of government.

you really do talk a load of nonsense sticky
are you on your 2nd bottle of vino tinto already?

top rate of tax already cuts in at <£50k
it has been proven here, there and indeed pretty much everywhere, that if you tax people to the hilt, you just disincentivise them, so they take their money elsewhere

you want people to invest or spend their money within the economy, whether in goods or shares (aka savings) so for gov't to strip it off them (to misuse) merely removes it from circulation, and that helps no one at all

I doubt that Labour will do even one on your list?

The redistribution of wealth will see full employment in the economy and resulting growth.

Anybody trying to leave the country on wealth grounds will have assets possessed or repossessd as they have probably stolen them in the first place.

Its coming Cynic, get used to the idea.

Bottoms up.

let's shred your nonsense a bit .....

They are this time......

1.Council Tax bands A+B to be increased at least 25%
WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU INCREASE COUNCIL TAX (NOTHING TO DO WITH CENTRAL GOV'T ANYWAY) ON THE LOWEST BANDS?



2. Mansion Tax on Houses capital value £2 million
WHY?
THE SO-CALLED VALUE OF A HOUSE IS PURE HAPPENSTANCE
FOR EXAMPLE, I SUSPECT MY OWN HOUSE HAS A VALUE OF JUST OVER £2M (WE KNOW YOURS IS WORTH £7M BECAUSE YOU BOASTED ABOUT IT), THOUGH I PAID ABOUT £350K 25 YEARS AGO
IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME, IT WILL TAXED ANYWAY UNDER IHT


3. Tax on public school boys and certain universitys
TYPICAL DRUNKEN IDIOTIC COMMENT



4. Banker tax on either A, bonus or B, taxable salary
WHY?
IF YOU'RE A BANKER, YOU ALREADY GET TAXED
OR IN YOUR DRUNKEN STUPOR WERE YOU MIXING UP THE EMPLOYER AND EPLOYEE?


5. Tax on Gentlemens clubs.
WHAT ABOUT LADIES' CLUBS - THEY DO EXIST YOU KNOW
THEY'RE PROBABLY TAXED ANYWAY, IF THEY ARE MAKING ANY PROFIT - I THINK THEY STRUGGLE QUITE BADLY


6. Tax increase on whiskey brandy and rum.
WHY NOT ON GIN OR VODKA


7. Tax on private hospitals.
IF THEY'RE COMPANIES, THEY'LL BE TAXED ANYWAY


8. Tax on private dentists and doctor practises
MEDICAL PRACTICES ARE PARTNERSHIPS, SO EVERYONE PAYS THEIR COMMENSURATE TAX ANYWAY.
WHAT ABOUT SOLICITORS THEN?


9. Top rate of tax 50% on 150,000
THAT MAY COME IN, BUT MANY (INCLUDING ME) WILL DO THEIR BEST TO TAKE LEGAL AVOIDING ACTION OR AT LEAST MINIMISE SAME
DO YOU THINK IT WILL REALLY ADD MUCH TO THE EXCHEQUERE?
OF COURSE IT WON'T, BUT IT'S TYPICAL POLITICAL SOUNBITE CRAP


10. Tax on equestrian events and some golf clubs.
EVENTS ARE ALREADY TAXED, AS INDEED ARE GOLF CLUBS
WHAT ABOUT CLUBS FOR GREYHOUND RACING FANS OR RACING PIGEON FANCIERS?


All this to take place in the first 5 years of government.
AT LEAST "THAT LOT" WOULD THEN BE THROWN OUT PRONTO!

:-))

you really are such an arsehole, and not even funny with it :-)

gf
You are amusing at times. I love this 'when the revolution comes' stuff. It is obvious that you are naive and gullible from past posts, but you don't have to remind us so often.

Get better medication!

You reduce "welfare payments" to induce the unemployed and less able to get a job and work harder, but increase the work rate from the higher taxed by reducing tax increasing private income.

Bonkers.

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It is reasonable for risk takers to have a decent return from their investments, but the "profits" are generally made by the utilisation of the labour of others lower down the chain.

The differential between top "earners or investors" and "wealth producers" are disproportionate.

Manuel and Hazy are living reactionaries occupying too much space.

Ps.

For somebody who is always criticising the number of post by others, he certainly is doing well himself to-day.

I wish the content of his postings had been worth reading!

8-)



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