cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
explosive
- 02 Feb 2009 12:32
- 3865 of 21973
Building Societies todays calling for the BOE not to reduce interest rates any further. A good call I think, Sterling isn't a reserve currency like the USD so doesn't have the demand. Wednesday - Thursday will be important days as the FTSE I think has priced in a further cut. If this doesn't happen Sterling will stage a recovery. Surely government must now look after Sterling to prevent national debt escalating further. How many banks are able to pass on additional cuts, so what use is a further cut within the economy? So called toxic debt is preventing the banking system from lending and will do so until either its fully/partially written down or bought/insured against default. Increased levels of quantitive measures are required I think rather then additional base rate cuts.
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 12:34
- 3866 of 21973
will recover when and $ are perceived to being on shaky ground themselves .... has already dropped about 7% against in the last week as the message very slowly gets across that Euroland is in very deep poo! .... not news to me, i must say
explosive
- 02 Feb 2009 13:01
- 3867 of 21973
The Market calls for the ECB to cut but Trichet has already signalled that MPC won't till March. I'd expect further quantitive measures to be announced targeting manufacturing for Feb and a review of MPC come March. Interestingly I don't think the very small EUR or USD recoveries have even scratched at the surface, more of an attempt to consolidate within the fall.
spitfire43
- 02 Feb 2009 13:39
- 3868 of 21973
The UK government have been content to see fall so far, but the euro is seen as too strong now, and ECB was far too slow to react to slowdown. They even raised rates as recently as last summer (total madness) imagine the UK economy now if we were in the euro. Thinking about it you don't have to imagine it, just look at Spain.
steveo
- 02 Feb 2009 13:49
- 3869 of 21973
Re: protectionism, this is worth a read
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/4412497/In-Davos-protectionism-is-a-dirty-word.html
Surely these guys have learnt from the mistakes of the last depression, oh silly me of course not.
Barrack has his first big test coming up, for all our sakes lets hope he can convince capitol hill to see the bigger picture!!
Banks on their way down as predicted...gold easing today, wait another couple of days for a good entry after the last rally, once euro rates come down there's only quantative easing ie weak currencies ie strong gold.
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 13:56
- 3870 of 21973
DOW
will 7900 now be breached?
from what i have read, this seems to be very likely, and if so, the next strong support is some 700/800 lower
BigTed
- 02 Feb 2009 14:00
- 3871 of 21973
Think there is very strong support going back years at 7450 - also where we bounced very strongly back in November...
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 14:09
- 3872 of 21973
pefectly happy to take a profit at that level!
Strawbs
- 02 Feb 2009 14:11
- 3873 of 21973
Once we get there (FTSE/DOW lows) it should tell us if there's really money waiting on the sidelines to be invested. My guess. There isn't!
Strawbs.
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 14:48
- 3874 of 21973
and how will we know the lows have been hit? ..... unlikely to be a large sign there telling us so!
Strawbs
- 02 Feb 2009 15:12
- 3875 of 21973
As always a personal choice as to when you think the lows have been hit. Personally I'm prepared to wait until around 2500 on the FTSE before I consider bargain hunting. I might not buy there though. Depends how the charts and the wider economic climate looks.
Strawbs.
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 15:23
- 3876 of 21973
i wait with some amusement to see when you will actually decide the bottom has been reached and will put money in the market ..... but more likely it will be, "Oh! Looks as though I missed it. Think I'll wait for the market to drop again"
HARRYCAT
- 02 Feb 2009 15:30
- 3877 of 21973
Possibly a bit over cautious, Strawbs.
There are some good companies on the move upwards & paying a divi (Brit Aerospace, Chemring, Autonomy to name but a few) where money can be made just buying & selling shares without spread betting or trading CFDs.
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 15:33
- 3878 of 21973
far too dangerous for friend strawbs .... that would mean putting money on the table
Falcothou
- 02 Feb 2009 15:44
- 3879 of 21973
Bulls and bears can make money in this market, the rallies are steady and the sell-offs dramatic but there are lots of bull and bear traps ! If Strawbs is a long term buy and holder it probably is worth waiting for that final capitulation though if you were holding yen the ftse would be around 2000 now taking into account a halving in sterling
Strawbs
- 02 Feb 2009 15:45
- 3880 of 21973
That's OK. I'm happy you're all making money.
Strawbs.
HARRYCAT
- 02 Feb 2009 15:48
- 3881 of 21973
Cheers mate, but we would be even happier if you were joining the party!
Falcothou
- 02 Feb 2009 16:08
- 3882 of 21973
The Dow currently looks dire but it has diverged away from s&p,ftse, dax etc. last time it was at this level s@p was 20 points higher for example
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 16:31
- 3883 of 21973
strawbs is a long term non-buyer or -seller or -trader!
cynic
- 02 Feb 2009 16:32
- 3884 of 21973
falco ... which is largely why the pundits, for what they are worth, reckon Dow could tumble afresh