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Seems fair to me , stood to lose a packet if England won and win a shedload if the Aussies won , neither happened.

I can see people being peed off if they had greened up but the only real alternative is to introduce odds for the tie.

They introduced the tie market because of the fuss ties have always created. They even emailed the top cricket traders to ask for their views. So IMO they have done as much as they could. Happened plenty of times before.

I was on the womans final at Wimbledon and didn't have a bad day.

Scrip

have to say i disagree with you - if the tie is a potential result then it should be in the match odds market rather than in a side market - it is in almost every other market (including test match cricket where the draw is in the match odds market).

Imagine trading the football where the match odds page only has say Arsenal and Southampton and then you have a separate market for whether the game is a draw or not

I think the original rationale was that it was such a rare event it wasn't worth cluttering the market with a pretty much unused selection.

i think a lot of that would have been down to most one day matches were only ties if the side batting second were all out with the scores level. Nowadays more games are ties irrelevant of the number of wickets lost so are happening more

Also backed Maxwell at 4.5 for eviction. I doubt he'll be evicted but assuming there are only two people nominated for eviction, the other's equivalent odds would be 1.28 and it is unlikely that even Craig would trade so low immediately, enabling me to close at a profit once the nominations are announced. Doesn't work if there are three people nominated of course, or if Maxwell isn't one of them :-)

Not sure about Science. He is extremely annoying, but people realise he often has a valid point underneath the aggression. There are bigger fish to fry at the moment. I think he may well survive to the final four.

edit... screwed up post and will redo.

With the men's final on today I 've been trying to find a value bet.

It's been interesting to see from the player's stats that Federer has served 70 aces over 6 rounds giving an average of 11.67 per match. Roddick serving 97 and averaging 16.17. Bearing in mind that Roddick may well lose and won't have the full 3 sets to serve out his potential aces I still think he will make more aces than Federer.

Current odds for most aces are Roddick @1.64 ( already shortened from 1.71 when I grabbed a chunk 10 mins ago) and Federer @ 2.4

Well what a difference a day makes in the Big Brother house. Major orgy last night in the jacuzzi. It was pretty obvious that it was going to be Max and Craig this week, but now? Double standards should ensure that women are blamed for the orgy, and that would be Makosi and Orlaith... hmmmm...

Morning everyone,

Went to the Lakes last week but was forced to come home early and spent the last week in hospital with a very painful and severe infection of the skin called cellulitis. God only knows where I got it from but I hope I never get it again.

Missed all of Wimbledon as a result so hoping to get some trading in this week. Trouble is it is still quite painful for me to sit at the PC. Will keep taking the antibiotics and hope things improve as the week goes on.

Speak to you later.

Sorry to hear about the skin condition sounds dreadful. Have a good week that'll help cure it.

Harlosh,

Sorry to hear of your recent illness. Hope you make a speedy recovery. As soon as you're better we'll have to arrange an evening out again. Just post up dates as soon as you're ready cos Steve and I are fairly flexible.

John

sorry to hear about your condition - wish you a speedy recovery.

when youre feeling better give me a shout and we'll sort out a day for you to come over and trade and also arrange the night out with Bak

Cant access betfair this afternoon - anyone else got probs?

Looks ok here although not trading.

With Wimbledon finished I can't find any decent opportunities!

Harlosh sorry to read about your ailment - I have a friend who gets the same thing from time to time and usually ends up in hospital with it, hope you don't get a reoccurance.

Thanks everyone for your concern.

Steve/Bakko, as soon as I'm fit I'll let you know and we can arrange the night out.

stuartreece, that's scary. I thought it would be a one off. I hope for my sake it it is. Very unpleaseant.

Hope you get well soon Harlosh.

Sudden price movements in eviction odds would indicate Craig, Maxwell, and Science all up for eviction.

Virgin Radio: Anthony, Craig, Derek, Maxwell up for eviction
UNCONFIRMED - Virgin Radio are claiming to know today's nomination results. They claim that the rest of Team Smug and Derek face the public vote this week.

This is unconfirmed, although some might argue probable.

The only way to find out the truth is to watch BBLB tonight on Channel 4.
04 Jul 2005 by BBuk