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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

jimmy b - 29 Jun 2016 08:45 - 3873 of 12628

See them jumping up and down like spoilt children at the EU last night because they can't have their way with Britain any more .
And a mass of people converging on Westminster carrying banners , i wish they would get over it .

Also Alastair Campbell standing their talking Britain down ,complete parasite who along with Blair opened the door to all and sundry .

VICTIM - 29 Jun 2016 08:52 - 3874 of 12628

I'm fed up of the TV media coverage , any opportunity to have a bash at leavers they jump on , it's embarrassing , I watched similar to you jimmy and felt they are stirring things up just for air time .

jimmy b - 29 Jun 2016 08:55 - 3875 of 12628

Also i'm afraid being played for all it's worth is the race card ,i'm really fed up with that.

VICTIM - 29 Jun 2016 08:58 - 3876 of 12628

Contrasts that with the attempt to keep quite about the rapes and sexual assaults that happened in the German cities over new year , because they were migrants .

jimmy b - 29 Jun 2016 09:03 - 3877 of 12628

Yes ,makes me sick ,last night was about Muslim women being verbally abused in the north ,nothing to do with the referendum but now being linked to it.

grannyboy - 29 Jun 2016 09:51 - 3878 of 12628

Its all about brainwashing, On ITV teatime news last night the presenter
said the market had made a recovery and had risen 1% on opening...

She didn't say the market had closed UP over 2.60%..And in the same slot
they had a report from a bus somewhere in Birmingham and was asking
those who had voted leave if they regretted their decision, of course most
of them said they did. It didn't show you those(except one ,see below) who
would vote LEAVE no matter how many times there was a referendum..

And the funniest was when they asked the bus driver who could hardly speak
English and he said yes I voted LEAVE because there is to many immigrants
coming here...LOL!

jimmy b - 29 Jun 2016 09:56 - 3879 of 12628

All these kids demonstrating outside Westminster ,i have a good idea if your not happy with the way the country voted and you love Europe so much why not go and live there ,plenty of room .

VICTIM - 29 Jun 2016 10:04 - 3880 of 12628

I wonder if any leaver in any of these media outfits gets the cold shoulder from their remain co workers , it would be nice for someone to report on what's gone on behind the scenes .

grannyboy - 29 Jun 2016 10:10 - 3881 of 12628

Well there was talk at one time, and i almost fell for it, that Jeremy Paxman
was a Brexiteer..But then i saw his performance on the CH4 pro-eu debate on
the night before the referendum, when Paxman let the 'remainer's' have the run
of the whole debate..It was the most disgustingly BIASED piece of shit i've ever
had the misfortune to witness...

VICTIM - 29 Jun 2016 10:13 - 3882 of 12628

I agree totally granny unashamedly biased .

Haystack - 29 Jun 2016 11:02 - 3883 of 12628

Crabb won't win and wouldn't win a GE. He is very religious and is anti gay marriage and abortion. You couldn't get elected wit those views.

grannyboy - 29 Jun 2016 11:34 - 3884 of 12628

Its been confirmed that Chinese technology company Huawei's planned
1.3 BILLION pounds investment in the UK will go ahead despite the Brexit
vote...AND THE REMAINER'S SCAREMONGERING AND THREATS OF FOREIGN
COMPANIES NOT WANTING TO INVEST IN THE UK.....

Aston Martin(as posted on another site)Have also said they're investing 200
million pounds in the UK...

New Zealand/Australia are also keen to open up a trade dialogue...

iturama - 29 Jun 2016 11:41 - 3885 of 12628

I suspect if gay marriage went to a referendum, it would be overruled. It was never in the Con manifesto. Cameron is more liberal democrat than Conservative. The fact that the proportion of MPs that are homosexuals or lesbians is well above the national average may have influenced that move. Religion is a private matter. Crabb may be a good man but he doesn't have name recognition.

grannyboy - 29 Jun 2016 11:57 - 3886 of 12628

That's the only thing the snake oil salesman will be remembered for,
Gay marriage, the only promise he didn't break..

Maybe he's a secret shirt lifter.....Whatever!

Fred1new - 29 Jun 2016 13:16 - 3887 of 12628

I would suggest some of those can read and think, read the following:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d24b4dcc-3b9f-11e6-8716-a4a71e8140b0.html?ftcamp=traffic/partner/brexit/dianomi/uk/auddev#axzz4CyCAqSGI

Haystack - 29 Jun 2016 13:44 - 3888 of 12628

Merkel, Hollande, Tusk, Juncker: all holding consistent top line - NO single market access without Freedom of Movement.

Fred1new - 29 Jun 2016 13:56 - 3889 of 12628

Brexit: EU warns UK on freedom of movement
10 minutes ago
From the section Europe
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There can be "no single market a la carte" for the UK, EU leaders have warned, after meeting in Brussels to discuss the UK vote to leave the bloc.
Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission, said anyone wanting access to the EU's internal market had to adhere to strict criteria "without exception".
There could be "no negotiation without notification", he said.


The German and French leaders and the Council President said the same.
Donald Tusk said there would be another meeting of EU leaders, excluding the UK, on 16 September in Bratislava.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel also reiterated that there would be no discussions until Article 50 was formally triggered by the UK government.

"We wish that that would happen as soon as possible," she said.

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It will be good to have Boris as a PM.

We need a fantasist to be in charge.

Perhaps, we can hope for Granny's boy, Manuel, Tanker, Dumbo and Max in the negotiation team or even the cabinet.

Winners everytime.

Claret Dragon - 29 Jun 2016 14:06 - 3890 of 12628

Anyone hazard a guess at whıch EU country gıves theır restless natives a referendum on membershıp. Or wıll that optıon be shut down at the outset by polıtburo?

jimmy b - 29 Jun 2016 14:26 - 3891 of 12628

Poor old Fred he's lost everything recently and now he's throwing insults at everyone else ,Fred we WON !!! get over it .

grannyboy - 29 Jun 2016 14:30 - 3892 of 12628

There's nothing unusual in the fact that the UK arn't in the meetings with
the rest of the 27 other countries, because WE are leaving, so its up to
them to discuss their business and options, and when the negotiation start
then thats when the UK's negotiators and the EU start talking.

And that includes the pre talk bluster that you'll get, especially from the
side with the most to lose, in this case the EU...
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